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Post by petertherock on Jan 21, 2015 9:47:06 GMT -5
Anyone been following the deflate gate from last Sunday's AFC championship. Apparently 11 of 12 Patriots footballs were deflated under regulation pressure. Of course deflated balls couldn't be responsible for the holes in the defense that you could drive a Mack truck through.
Also, Aaron Rodgers said he likes to over-inflate the footballs but no one says anything about that lol! The interesting thing is that the balls are kept with the referees until game time which means in order for the Patriots to have done anything to the balls they would have to have done it during the game where everyone would have been watching. I suppose it's technically possible that could happen, but very unlikely.
My conspiracy theorist in me says the refs deflated the balls to set up the Patriots. We all know the league hates the Patriots so this wouldn't surprise me at all. Of course everyone still calls the Patriots cheaters for spy gate and they love calling Belichick "Belicheat" and as one Patriots employee says, "Everyone hates us anyway and that's the way we like it."
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Post by bartman2001 on Jan 26, 2015 8:20:08 GMT -5
Anyone been following the deflate gate from last Sunday's AFC championship. Apparently 11 of 12 Patriots footballs were deflated under regulation pressure. Of course deflated balls couldn't be responsible for the holes in the defense that you could drive a Mack truck through. Also, Aaron Rodgers said he likes to over-inflate the footballs but no one says anything about that lol! The interesting thing is that the balls are kept with the referees until game time which means in order for the Patriots to have done anything to the balls they would have to have done it during the game where everyone would have been watching. I suppose it's technically possible that could happen, but very unlikely. My conspiracy theorist in me says the refs deflated the balls to set up the Patriots. We all know the league hates the Patriots so this wouldn't surprise me at all. Of course everyone still calls the Patriots cheaters for spy gate and they love calling Belichick "Belicheat" and as one Patriots employee says, "Everyone hates us anyway and that's the way we like it." Here are a couple of things.: 1) First and foremost the Patriots are ultimately responsible for the balls. 2) That said I don’t buy any conspiracy theory stuff with the refs apart from the fact that they probably did a lousy job of inspecting the footballs. The patriots hand the balls to the refs from there the refs “test” the balls. Which in this case most likely was squeezing each ball twice and deeming them at the appropriate “inflation levels”. I think this is one of the reasons the NFL is dragging this shit out the refs obviously weren’t doing their jobs properly. 3) You mentioned Aaron Rodgers which is accurate it’s pretty obvious just about every team in the NFL caters the footballs to their liking. 4) Most importantly in the second half when using footballs deemed at the accurate inflation Tom Brady was 17 of 18 or 18 of 19 for roughly 150 yards 2 TD’s & 0 INT and the Patriots scored 28 points to the Colts 0. It’s completely obvious that the footballs had nothing to do with the Pats victory to everyone save for those who can’t stand the Patriots because of the fact that their consistently good and win. Hatred of the good for being good as Ayn Rand once said.
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Post by petertherock on Jan 27, 2015 8:54:15 GMT -5
A lot more has come out now. It seems when the Patriots prepare the game balls which they are allowed to do by rubbing them and scuffing them a little, the friction causes the balls to inflate a bit. After this the balls are sent to the refs and they set them at the teams preference. Since the Patriots like their balls at the minimum pressure, the balls are already artificially inflated so the refs deflate the balls to the minimum pressure, once the balls return to a normal pressure they are under inflated. Then you bring them outside in the cooler air and the balls lose more pressure.
Since the Dolts probably like their balls at a higher pressure, this wouldn't effect the Dolts balls because even after the artificial rise in pressure they would still be within regulation. The bottom line is the Dolts didn't even belong in the championship game because they weren't prepared to play to a championship level. The Dolts beat the Broncos by a fluke and got beat by a much superior team.
Now they are saying something about some ball boy or something was in the bathroom with the footballs for 50 seconds or something, which I haven't read the details of that other than 50 seconds would not be enough time to deflate the balls. Also, would it give the guy a chance to wash his hands? #hygienegate!!
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Post by tomass on Jan 28, 2015 20:09:30 GMT -5
Whole thing is a fucking joke.. The Refs are accountable and the NFL is trying to find a way out of it. If this was anyone but the Patriots it would be a non issue.. Go Pats!! FTW!!!
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Post by petertherock on Feb 2, 2015 9:13:47 GMT -5
Patriots are super bowl champs! Deflate them balls!
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Post by tomass on Feb 2, 2015 19:26:55 GMT -5
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Post by bartman2001 on Feb 3, 2015 15:38:56 GMT -5
Here are a couple of things to keep in mind as the Patriots Super Bowl parade continues:
“Tuck Rule Game” Argument 1: That was a FUMBLE! o Fact: NFL Rule 3, Section 22, Article 2, Note 2 clearly states that any …… “intentional forward movement of his arm”…….”even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body.” No fumble according to the rule. CORRECTLY applied.
• “Tuck Rule Game” Argument 2: The NFL created the Tuck Rule during that game! o Fact: The “Tuck Rule” was in placed into effect in 1999, and was changed in 2013, 11 years after the game. o Fact: The “Tuck Rule” was called in favor of Jets QB Vinny Testaverde during the 2nd game of the 2001 season against the Patriots in Foxboro.
• Patriots taped Rams practice prior to Superbowl XXXVI Argument: o Fact: Boston Herald reporter, John Tomase, reported, the Friday before the Superbowl, that the Patriots had taped a Rams practice. He later admitted the story was inaccurate, and was NOT based on factual evidence. Tomase then issued a public apology for the erroneous report.
• Patriots “Cheated” by “Illegal” videotaping during their Superbowl-winning seasons Argument: o Fact: Video-taping the opposing team from the sideline was NOT ILLEGAL, prior to a league-wide memo set to all teams during the 2006 season by Ray Anderson. o Fact: The only restriction the Ray Anderson memo made, was regarding the filming from the sideline. NO restrictions were placed on viewing opponent signals with binoculars, lip-reading through binoculars, writing down descriptions of opponent signals. o Fact: Numerous current, and former, NFL head-coaches, including Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cowher, identified videotaping of opponent signals as common practice within the NFL prior to the Ray Anderson memo in 2006.
• Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are pathological liars Argument: o Fact: There has never been ANY evidence produced supporting the claim. In fact, Bill Belichick admitted/apologized publicly for “Spygate”, and has never denied his involvement.
• Patriots are ALWAYS bending the rules Argument: o Fact: The ONLY “rule” the Patriots have been proven to have violated, was the rule against the “location” of videotaping, as written in the 2006 Ray Anderson memo. o Fact: The unique formations utilized by the Patriots against the Ravens in the 2014 Divisional Playoff win were confirmed as legal by the NFL.
• “Deflate-Gate” is PROOF the Patriots CHEAT Argument: o Fact: The NFL has presented NO evidence, as of yet, that any intentional “deflation” of footballs occurred in the AFC Championship Game. o Fact: Both Bill Belichick, and Tom Brady, have categorically denied knowledge of intentional deflating of footballs (see Pathological Liars Argument).
• The Patriots Legacy is “Tainted” Argument: o Fact: The Patriots have NEVER been proven to have “cheated”. They have only been proven as guilty of videotaping from the wrong location during a single game following the 2006 season. Any activity prior to 2006, was not illegal.
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