More blacks beating whites

It's ironic that after blacks gained freedom from slavery, whites lost the freedom to speak truthfully about how many blacks behave. It seems only blacks have the right to publically criticize how other blacks behave, and even they are obstracized for doing it. The media (except FoxNews) NEVER speaks out about black-on-white crime, but will jump in a second on white police-on-black thug incidents (even when police are correct) and harp for weeks (or months) about "racism" and the "hurt" of the black community (yes CNN, I mean you).

tomass, you are a bigot.

Yes, once in a while black people beat up and/or kill white people. I agree that it's very bad when this happens - no debate there. But, generally, we all get very angry and we feel very, very bad for the white victims when this happens (and, we report it in the news - as evidenced by the videos you've posted from news outlets). After all, white people are valuable, and their lives matter!  It's newsworthy and  it's anger-worthy when a white person is a victim of a violent crime, because white people count.

But we also need to talk about how black victims of violence (yeah, and that violence is often perpetrated by whites) far outnumber the white victims.  Nobody gets up-in-arms when a black person is the victim of a violent crime, or a victim of police violence/harassment, or a victim of systematic social oppression. Nobody reports it in the news, and nobody cares --- because black people don't matter.  They're essentially throwaways. 

Perhaps instead of complaining about the inherent violence and savagery of blacks, we might consider the reasons why blacks are generally poor and angry?   We might consider all the ways in which this country has a long history of shitting on black folks.  Has it ever even occurred to you that blacks might have reasons to be angry?  

If you were a black man who was working hard to better himself, how would you honestly feel about society's general attitude towards blacks?   How would you feel if you were born into a world that told you that you were inherently violent and savage just by virtue of having been born?   How might that attitude affect your life?   Would it be easier or harder for you to find work, housing, etc?  

We seem to be coming from an assumption that black people are "inherently" inferior to whites, and this assumption is a result of blindness to all the privileges we get to enjoy simply as a result of having white skin.  As white people, we simply don't have all these stereotypes and assumptions working against us -- that's the reality that you're all ignoring, here.

I very much agree that it's safer to stay away from black neighborhoods, but this sure isn't because "black people are inherently more violent than us peace-loving whites."    White folks bear just as much responsibility for the fact that black neighborhoods are cesspools of poverty and crime.   Crime tends to go hand-in-hand with poverty regardless of race.   The harsh truth is that white folks have been shitting on black folks for a few centuries now, and we've created a world where blacks are forced into a poverty-stricken underclass. We make it next-to-impossible for them to dig themselves out of that poverty, or to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.  Violence and crime in black communities is everybody's fault.

"Cracker" is such a needlessly dehumanizing thing to call another human being. (Oh! Notice how there aren't any similarly derogatory names for whites! Perhaps I could call you "Honky" or whatever, but it doesn't really carry the same sting for you, does it? And, yet, we still blindly imagine that White Privilege doesn't really exist, even though it plainly does. Try putting yourself into another person's shoes and try seeing the world through eyes other than your own for a while -- trust me, it really will help you to stop being so racist. )



I don't know why I still come here just to torture myself with the overflowing mountains of stupid - perhaps I'm a masochist, or whatever. Perhaps I imagine in vain that I can help you to become better human beings.  But, then again, this is a forum where we've actually needed to have discussions like "Why A Beautiful Woman's Body Is Not Yours To Admire" and "Yes, Folks, white privilege actually is a real thing." So, it's pretty obvious that having respect for the basic humanity of our fellow human beings isn't really a strong point for many of the folks here at AF2.   Having some ability to step outside of your own little bubble and to see the world through another person's eyes is a really big pre-requisite for being a decent person -- this skill is known as "compassion," and it would help you to develop it a bit. 

Let’s see some numbers to back this up. And within’ those numbers give us the total and within that total separate how many black victims come at the hands of whites and how many come at the hands of black on black violence. This way we can draw some more accurate conclusions. One can easily dismiss your argument as a result of someone whose conclusions are based on the news stories they see that are overwhelmingly disproportionate showing white on black violence.




And I’m not buying any of that social disadvantage crap you preach I’m not at fault because I’m white for any black persons “poverty or situation’ same as I’m not for any white persons misery for that matter. No I don’t agree with everything others have posted in this and other threads of this nature but I don’t have any issues with a lot of their indignation either. I’ve a black brother in law and he and my sister have three interracial kids. He’s busted his ass of for them and they’ve been raised well as a result. Another reason I don’t buy much of your argument I’ve seen firsthand that anyone can succeed  in spite of race color or creed. Oh and he didn’t have it easy as a kid his father bolted on his mother when he was a kid and she like him with his kids, busted her ass to raise him well instead of using it as an excuse. So please come off you pulpit somewhat I don’t need you to “Teach my how to be a better human being” I do love how liberals claim to care about everyone but seem to me they’re more interesting in telling people their right (when they’re usually not btw).

Again, I don't know what world you live in but from my daily experiences it is quite the opposite. That is the reason for my posts. I am not posting to try and demonize black people. I am doing it as a direct response to media's overwhelming lop sided reporting. 

Yes, actually, you are.  

I know that it's probably important to you to think of yourself as "a good guy," and it makes you uncomfortable to think of all the ways in which you cause hardship for others without even realizing it or actively doing anything.   But, reality is, you have the luxury of not having to think about the disadvantages that other people face --- and that's a problem.

I'm sorry that you feel that social disadvantages are "crap." (and you feel that I'm "preaching!" How telling.)  But, merely stating your opinion that "social disadvantage is crap" doesn't actually make it a meritless idea.  Like it or not, the stone-cold fact of the matter is that black people do actually have many social disadvantages -- regardless of whether you wish to acknowledge it, or not.  You can choose to turn a blind eye to this reality and continue to perpetrate those disadvantages, or you can choose to acknowledge it and solve the problem.  But, it's really your choice.  By turning a blind eye to social disadvantages that do in fact exist, it means that responsibility for those disadvantages does fall on your shoulders.  

No doubt, there are certainly many black people who do succeed in life -- and I know many of them myself.  But, they had to work much harder for their success than you had to because they faced disadvantages that you didn't have to face.  In daily life, even successful and upstanding blacks need to deal with things like being followed in stores (shoplifter for sure),  and being pulled over by police for no reason at all.  Have you ever really sat down and spoken to your brother-in-law about his thoughts?

Do you realize how what you're implying here (that social disadvantage is a total crock of shit because black people are naturally lazy and stupid) is a ridiculously racist viewpoint to hold?

Asian people tend to be very successful. Asians send their kids to Ivy League schools, and they become doctors and engineers.  But, it doesn't change the reality that whites have enormous social privileges over Asians, or that Asian folks endure hardships that white folks never have to see, think about, or experience.  Nobody cares much when Asian folks go missing or get murdered, either.  Asians are often quite angry with whites, too.  White folks need to wake up to this.


And -- oh, I'm absolutely able to back my opinion up with numbers.  Unlike you, I don't spout opinions that I haven't fully researched.  I can provide you with full numbers and a full breakdown if you would like, but I have to wonder why you're incapable of doing this research by yourself?  You wouldn't be capable of providing the numbers to support your opinion, because crime stats simply don't support that. But, again, why were you incapable of doing this research before expressing an incorrect opinion?

I was right there with you up until this.