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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 11:19:17 GMT -5
So, do you have something that you have a perception of that is probably much different than what you think? For an example, those that didn't give Aerosmith a chance because they thought them Rolling Stones ripoffs, or, this one is my favorite, my father not listening to AC/DC his whole life because in the 70's AC/DC meant "bisexual" and he didn't want to "listen to a bunch of queers." I know, I know, I've banged my head against a wall on that one for most of my life, what can I say, my dad is an idiot.
Anyway, not to that extreme, but do you have a perception of something that is keeping you from enjoying it? Maybe someone here can change your mind. Why not discuss it?
I'll start. I never gave the Moody Blues a chance because I thought them to be along the lines of Pink Floyd and I'd rather listen to Floyd.
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Post by aerognr87 on May 2, 2014 11:29:38 GMT -5
For the longest time, I didn't really listen to Bon Jovi because the perception was they were too poppy. True, they do have some lighter fare, but they also have a lot of great harder rock songs as well, and a lot of their ballads are actually really well written.
I also didn't listen to country for the longest time, because it was too hillbilly, too twangy, and too filled with melancholy ballads, and country themes I couldn't relate to. That may have been the case back in the day, but a lot of country music these days is more rocking, with more guitars, and more upbeat party anthem songs, more traditional ballads, and themes that almost anyone can relate to.
There have also been albums I avoided for the longest time because they didn't have many hits, didn't sell well, or were poorly reviewed. But as it turns out, albums such as Fair Warning by Van Halen and Rock in a Hard Place by Aerosmith are really amazing hard rock albums. Also, I probably wouldn't be so into Powerage by AC/DC if not for my Dad who was really into that one. I still feel like a lot of people are missing out on that one.
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Post by AeroCooper on May 2, 2014 11:33:37 GMT -5
Well, I've never thought of The Moody Blues and Pink Floyd in the same category, but I guess I can see a loose kind of parallel there. I doubt I could change your mind, but here's a few of my favorites.
This is an odd one for sure, but I used to listen to it in the dark before drifting off to sleep as a teen.
As for bands that I probably have the wrong impression of, I could never get into Nirvana for 2 reasons, first I love loud cock-rock arena music, so the shoe gazing thing never did it for me, and second, they single handedly killed the great hair band invasion of the '80s.
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Post by AeroCooper on May 2, 2014 11:38:10 GMT -5
I also didn't listen to country for the longest time, because it was too hillbilly, too twangy, and too filled with melancholy ballads, and country themes I couldn't relate to. That may have been the case back in the day, but a lot of country music these days is more rocking, with more guitars, and more upbeat party anthem songs, more traditional ballads, and themes that almost anyone can relate to. Ok, this should be first on my list, but my hard head won't even listen to arguments about country. It was my parents and grand-parents music and I'll never get past that and the fact that the fake southern accents drive me straight up the wall. All that being said, there are a handful of songs that I do like a lot, such as Faith Hill "It Matters To Me"
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 11:39:27 GMT -5
I didn't care for Wildest Dreams, but I really dug Question. I have to watch Balance later.
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Post by jj on May 2, 2014 11:54:04 GMT -5
In the mid 70s I wouldn't listen to ACDC because a friend told me they were like the pop band like ABBA with two female singers. Seeing them live in 78 proved that misperception quite false!
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Post by anaix3l on May 2, 2014 12:44:10 GMT -5
My perception of music has changed a lot over the years.
I wasn't raised in a family where people cared about music. I think the only music I ever listened to before starting to do homework with the radio on was... music played at weddings or at sports events my parents happened to watch on TV.
Also, throughout my school years, I've seen religion constantly becoming more important. At school, we were educated (ahem, brainwashed) against rock music, we got shown "documentaries" about satanic signs and hidden messages in the lyrics. I was about nine when this started. I may have been very much into science and skeptical about religion, but I still grew up with the idea that rock music was about violence and harming others.
When I got into 9th grade, I landed in the same class with a girl who happened to be a rocker and was crazy about Nirvana in particular. We became close because we happened to have another passion in common: motorsports. She lived right next to the school, so we'd often skip classes to play basketball, have ice cream, pick cats out of the trash, go to her place and exchange clothes. While her music was playing. I really didn't like Nirvana at the time, but at least I got over the people who listen to rock are bad people thing.
Then I discovered Aerosmith. On my own, while doing Maths homework. I heard Jaded and I really liked it. It's one of the reasons I'm grateful for Just Push Play. It may be my least favourite album now, but it got them a lot of attention at a time when I didn't know about internet, so them being on TV a lot was a big thing for me, because it meant I could feed my curiosity. It also made me want to discover other rock acts. Some of which I ended up liking a lot (though in some cases I originally ignored because of the look of their album covers, still too much for me at the time).
One of my new obsessions was Alice Cooper. And in looking to feed my curiosity, I came across a cover by Children Of Bodom. I didn't like it initially, but that was my first exposure to death metal. Something I was going to become very interested in about a year later, when I got a festival DVD. One of the bands on it was Amon Amarth. One of their songs on the DVD was Death in Fire, which I still love to pieces to this day and which made me curious about them and death metal in general.
So the girl who was being told in the mid-90s that rock music is the essence of all evil ended up liking... guess what type of music?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 12:48:13 GMT -5
Balance is a little nutty. lol I actually kinda enjoyed it though.
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Post by bartman2001 on May 2, 2014 13:17:17 GMT -5
There have also been albums I avoided for the longest time because they didn't have many hits, didn't sell well, or were poorly reviewed. But as it turns out, albums such as Fair Warning by Van Halen and Rock in a Hard Place by Aerosmith are really amazing hard rock albums. Also, I probably wouldn't be so into Powerage by AC/DC if not for my Dad who was really into that one. I still feel like a lot of people are missing out on that one. It's odd AC/DC Powerage is one of my very favorite AC/DC albums. Raw and killer every track. Odd however because at the time it did not sell well and was poorly reviewed also yet you got to enjoy it for other reasons.
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Post by nick on May 2, 2014 14:28:33 GMT -5
My perception of music has changed a lot over the years. I wasn't raised in a family where people cared about music. I think the only music I ever listened to before starting to do homework with the radio on was... music played at weddings or at sports events my parents happened to watch on TV. Also, throughout my school years, I've seen religion constantly becoming more important. At school, we were educated (ahem, brainwashed) against rock music, we got shown "documentaries" about satanic signs and hidden messages in the lyrics. I was about nine when this started. I may have been very much into science and skeptical about religion, but I still grew up with the idea that rock music was about violence and harming others. When I got into 9th grade, I landed in the same class with a girl who happened to be a rocker and was crazy about Nirvana in particular. We became close because we happened to have another passion in common: motorsports. She lived right next to the school, so we'd often skip classes to play basketball, have ice cream, pick cats out of the trash, go to her place and exchange clothes. While her music was playing. I really didn't like Nirvana at the time, but at least I got over the people who listen to rock are bad people thing. Then I discovered Aerosmith. On my own, while doing Maths homework. I heard Jaded and I really liked it. It's one of the reasons I'm grateful for Just Push Play. It may be my least favourite album now, but it got them a lot of attention at a time when I didn't know about internet, so them being on TV a lot was a big thing for me, because it meant I could feed my curiosity. It also made me want to discover other rock acts. Some of which I ended up liking a lot (though in some cases I originally ignored because of the look of their album covers, still too much for me at the time). One of my new obsessions was Alice Cooper. And in looking to feed my curiosity, I came across a cover by Children Of Bodom. I didn't like it initially, but that was my first exposure to death metal. Something I was going to become very interested in about a year later, when I got a festival DVD. One of the bands on it was Amon Amarth. One of their songs on the DVD was Death in Fire, which I still love to pieces to this day and which made me curious about them and death metal in general. So the girl who was being told in the mid-90s that rock music is the essence of all evil ended up liking... guess what type of music? That's crazy how they actually showed you documentaries to deter you from listening to rock music. And Yeah I love amon amarth. I was raised on Rock, with a dad and older brother that both play guitar. When I was younger I was very against anything like death metal because the music is fast and the vocalists scream So I kind of had the perception that they were untalented and that the music lacked soul and feeling. It wasn't until I was a freshman in H.S. that I became open minded about death metal when a friend just showed me the write songs/ bands which has in turned really broadened my view on music and my guitar playing. Some people really do have a misconception of death metal and don't really get how talented some of those band are like amon amarth, In Flames, Arch Enemy, Soilwork, the absence, those bands have some ridiculous guitar work.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 17:07:59 GMT -5
I have never saw value or enjoyment in speed metal, metal or punk. Metallica being the most popular band that I have no time for. Love Ozzy, but not Black Sabbath. Love Dio and if I look I might like a song or two of his when he was with BS, but I really don't know. Pop to Aerosmith is my range I guess. Moody Blues, Yes, Pink Floyd and southern rock grate on my nerves......but love Genesis and Tom Petty.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 17:12:17 GMT -5
There have also been albums I avoided for the longest time because they didn't have many hits, didn't sell well, or were poorly reviewed. But as it turns out, albums such as Fair Warning by Van Halen and Rock in a Hard Place by Aerosmith are really amazing hard rock albums. Also, I probably wouldn't be so into Powerage by AC/DC if not for my Dad who was really into that one. I still feel like a lot of people are missing out on that one. It's odd AC/DC Powerage is one of my very favorite AC/DC albums. Raw and killer every track. Odd however because at the time it did not sell well and was poorly reviewed also yet you got to enjoy it for other reasons. I first became aware of AC/DC from some movie that was in late night theaters in the 70's I think. Bon Scott lead concert, them riding around in a 928 in a field. The whole dynamic of Malcolm and Cliff staying methodically in place and coming forward to sing was really cool.
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Post by nick on May 2, 2014 17:26:02 GMT -5
Ehh it's not really speed metal and in my opinion those bands have more talent than metallica (I don't really like metallica that much at all, they're okay Imo) those bands I listed are more focused on melody and feel rather than speed. Though they do have fast tempo songs. That's how I used to think until I was shown some bands that are less about just focusing on speed and showing off and more about their love of music. There really is value in the music (specifically Swedish melodic death metal) and the lyrics of some of those bands (the ones that don't write lyrics about gore). Vocally there isn't much value, the screaming has grown on me but those bands are mostly all about the music. But I understand what you're saying. Everybody has their preferences, just like I don't see the enjoyment in any country music. But I think most music does have value (not including mainstream artists like Justin Bieber, Drake and Nicki Minaj among others) although I dislike a lot of it, it is good that there is different music out there.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 17:50:09 GMT -5
Ehh it's not really speed metal and in my opinion those bands have more talent than metallica (I don't really like metallica that much at all, they're okay Imo) those bands I listed are more focused on melody and feel rather than speed. Though they do have fast tempo songs. That's how I used to think until I was shown some bands that are less about just focusing on speed and showing off and more about their love of music. There really is value in the music (specifically Swedish melodic death metal) and the lyrics of some of those bands (the ones that don't write lyrics about gore). Vocally there isn't much value, the screaming has grown on me but those bands are mostly all about the music. But I understand what you're saying. Everybody has their preferences, just like I don't see the enjoyment in any country music. But I think most music does have value (not including mainstream artists like Justin Bieber, Drake and Nicki Minaj among others) although I dislike a lot of it, it is good that there is different music out there. Yea, I was nnot saying someone is wrong to like certain music. Just not my thing.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 22:48:19 GMT -5
Interesting post, anaix3l, I like reading about how other fans got into Aerosmith and rock music in general, but it's a bit nuts how they showed you documentaries about the evils of rock music!
When I have a baby, he'll probably grow up telling everyone about how his mother forced him to listen to Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath all the time. I want my children to appreciate quality rock music. I'm never going to encourage my kids to listen to insipid "childrens' music." My children will rock.
For my part, I used to think AC/DC sucked. I didn't understand it at all! I just heard this guy screeching horribly and I didn't really understand what a fun and catchy band they are. I'm not sure when it really all dawned on me that AC/DC makes incredibly fun and catchy music, but I can remember hating them at one point in time. I think the vocals can be hard to take if you're unaccustomed.
My taste in music has grown progressively heavier over the years. When I was a tweenie girl just discovering Aerosmith for the first time, I went for the lighter, pop-friendlier rock like Def Leppard and Bon Jovi. As the years have progressed, I've come to truly appreciate the merits of thrash-metal and I particularly love all New Wave Of British Heavy Metal-type music. I still value melody and all, but I've come to understand and value the musical complexity and melodic beauty of a great deal of "heavy metal music". It's a different aesthetic from Aerosmith-style rock, but it's an aesthetic I really enjoy.
I don't enjoy heavy metal when the guitars sound like jackhammers and the vocalist sounds like the cookie monster because I perceive that it's not musical. I've given it an honest chance! It's not like I haven't given Black Metal and Death Metal a fair shake, but I just find it very hard to listen to.
I don't understand jazz at all, because I've never really "listened" to it or tried to educate myself about it, so I don't even understand it and I don't understand what I'm hearing when I listen to it. It sounds like a bunch of random, dissonant sounds. I'm sure that if I really got into jazz, I'd understand it and appreciate it but as a totally clueless and uninformed jazz-listener it kind of sounds like noise. See, I'd take you to task if you tried to say the same things about Iron Maiden or Megadeth, but I can see why someone would come away with the same impression about metal bands that I have about jazz.
I don't listen to any "Christian rock" because in my experience, many "Christian rock bands" have been cheap imitations of the real thing. It'd be one thing if a group of talented musicians who were also Christians said "Let's start a band and get our Christian message out there, but let's also make music our top priority and let's push the envelope creatively and do something unique that nobody's ever heard before." That way, they could be famous and awesome in their own right. But I hate it when it's like "Oh, this is the Christian version of Metallica! Do you love Metallica? Then you'll also love this Christian band who sound just like them!" I think it's a mistake to look at a successful rock band and then say "How can we copy this music and Christianize it?" Because a copy of another band will always be less-good than the actual original band who are being copied. Putting a certain message or agenda ahead of the music itself usually makes for pretty bad music.
However, don't shoot me, but I do love Stryper. I listen to "To Hell With The Devil" at top volume in my car. I know Stryper were totally jumping on the eighties hair-metal bandwagon, but such a good song.
Often, when a band has been branded with that "eighties hair-metal" label, it causes me to pre-emptively judge them and not want to listen to them.
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