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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Mar 23, 2023 17:41:35 GMT -5
I'm more in agreement with petertherock on this one. The asshole 19 year old ran at and attacked an elderly one armed man...and then attacked a good Samaritan woman who tried to help the victim. To say "He needs therapy and maybe a little jail time" is ridiculous. Maybe a little jail time, as if maybe he shouldn't receive any? It's a violent, predatory attack on someone incapable of properly defending themselves. He should be made an example of and removed from society for a long time, with the onus on him to prove he can act like a civilized human being. On a lighter note, ap 's joke early on in this thread isn't getting the props it deserves. That was hilarious.
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Post by fwanger on Mar 24, 2023 5:34:39 GMT -5
Why is it ridiculous to say he needs therapy and jail? He's obviously not right in the head as normal folks don't attack people in the street and trash cars cause they are mad and don't know what to do with their anger. And he broke the law. I'm not sorry. I hate lynch mob mentalities. We do not execute people for minor misdemeanors and smaller felonies. This isn't the Middle East where they will stone you in the street or chop off your head.
I am not defending this little jerkoff. I am defending the idea that we stopped lynching people in the 1950s and I don't like the rhetoric. Also, this is going way off topic now. I am not about to sit here on this soapbox and continue to defend the notion that we are a country that is supposed to be handling things better then "you made me mad so you die now".
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Mar 24, 2023 21:28:20 GMT -5
Lighten up, nobody was saying he should be lynched or executed. You were awfully quick to jump on that soap box. There were jokes about alligators and being 'armed', nothing about lynching or Saudi Arabia. Glad to see you're now in favor of some jail time, your first quote on the matter was. Maybe by 'a little' you meant a few years opposed to a longer sentence? Certainly you don't think there should be no jail time for this.
You're against vengeance and reciprocal punishment. A fan of a kinder, gentler, more sophisticated approach. That's cool, you're entitled to that opinion.
To me, it's soft on crime activist bullshit pushed by lobbyists who fall far, far short of the promises they make. It prioritizes the perpetrator over the victim. It's much more expensive and far less effective, with higher crime rates and more repeat offenders.
Of course, they'll never admit such policies are horrible failures, they just double down and cry that they need more funding.
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Post by fwanger on Mar 25, 2023 11:37:00 GMT -5
This is where we will agree to disagree because I am about to say things that will not be tolerated by the modders on this forum. Do not lump me into some category simply because I took issue with a bullshit comment made by Darryl. Just because I think a more common sense approach to things works better then kneejerk violence don't think for one second I am a soft on crime activist or whatever bullshit category you are trying to gaslight me into.
Saying that some asshole that attacked two randos on the street and trashed a bunch of cars needs therapy and jail time is not being soft on crime or putting the perp over the victim. From how it seems in this conversation you got butthurt over one word I used that you didn't like. "little" Get over it.
You can have the last word if you want it. I'm not checking this thread anymore.
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Post by petertherock on Mar 28, 2023 23:47:58 GMT -5
Lighten up, nobody was saying he should be lynched or executed. You were awfully quick to jump on that soap box. There were jokes about alligators and being 'armed', nothing about lynching or Saudi Arabia. Glad to see you're now in favor of some jail time, your first quote on the matter was. Maybe by 'a little' you meant a few years opposed to a longer sentence? Certainly you don't think there should be no jail time for this. You're against vengeance and reciprocal punishment. A fan of a kinder, gentler, more sophisticated approach. That's cool, you're entitled to that opinion. To me, it's soft on crime activist bullshit pushed by lobbyists who fall far, far short of the promises they make. It prioritizes the perpetrator over the victim. It's much more expensive and far less effective, with higher crime rates and more repeat offenders. Of course, they'll never admit such policies are horrible failures, they just double down and cry that they need more funding. This soft on crime BS has made NYC and pretty much every major city in the US unlivable. They let these clowns out on no cash bail and they go and rape and murder other people while out. That’s what being soft on crime gets you. No one is saying we should lock up shop lifters for 20 years. But when you attack an elderly one armed man like a thug, you should go to prison for a long time. There are bad people out there that are going to do bad things no matter how much “therapy” you give them.
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