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Post by gonzaloc on Jul 2, 2024 22:11:47 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I know this is a long shot, but if anyone remembers this, it would be someone in this forum.
I remember a thread in the old AF1, probably around 2005, of a new user claiming to have found a promo CD of a remix of Just Push Play ft Kid Rock in a store, and looking to find a buyer on AF1. I think he was asking for about $80, and he posted a short mp3 sample of the bridge which feature Kid's vocals back and forth with Steven. He was eventually annoyed since everyone wanted him to post the mp3 for free, and never replied.
My guess is this remix was made aiming to release it as a single for Dec 2001, which was the original plan (but then the album didn't perform as expected, etc).
I was never that interested in this remix, but it was a cool find, and a real rarity for the JPP era. Since then, I've tried to find the mp3 sample, but it's simply been lost in time. Would anyone here remember that? and if so, would you still have the file? or any other info around the remix?
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Post by fwanger on Jul 3, 2024 6:41:25 GMT -5
I don't remember this. But now I am wondering if the original poster did a little mixing on their own (akin to the mix/mashup of Michael Jackson and Aerosmith's versions of Come Together) and was trying to see if there was a audience that he could get money for it from. And when everyone wanted it for free just left.
But then again, there are stranger things under the sun. Hope you find it.
EDIT: I tried using the Wayback Machine and going into the old forum and ran a search of Kid Rock in AF1's old search database and came up with nothing. But I feel like we might be close.
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Post by ap on Jul 3, 2024 9:47:25 GMT -5
I regularly frequented Aero forums dating back to '98, but don't recall any KR/Aero studio pairings. Only live pairings on WTW and such.
If it were a legit single, promo or otherwise, it would likely be on Discogs. It's not.
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Post by gonzaloc on Jul 3, 2024 19:47:08 GMT -5
Nah, this was not a fan mix... I remember the sample mp3, it was clearly the Aerosmith track, with a few lines with Kid on it, so it was him sining the line "im gonna gro my hair right down to my feet", then steven, then Kid, etc. Yeah, its not on Discogs either, maybe just a really really rare demo CD that leaked. Wayback machine works for set websites, but searching on a forum there will always be tricky... but things changed in AF1 around that time, they took all the old posts and replaced them as legacy, so it was kind of reset... until 2015ish when it went offline... Thanks for the replies though
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Post by gonzaloc on Jul 3, 2024 19:48:48 GMT -5
I mean, that Kid Rock actually recorded his parts for this... not a mix of the couple of songs he did live with them... a studio track
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Jul 3, 2024 21:36:57 GMT -5
I think that poster may have been trying to pull a fast one and either spliced something together himself, or came across someone trying to do the same. I'm not seeing anything, even a rumor of it existing anywhere on the web.
It seems odd to me that it could exist and show up in a store without any mentions in the corners of the web. It's not impossible, but seems highly unlikely that collaboration would completely fly under the radar especially around that time when Kid Rock was the hot new act, and shortly before going on the road with Aerosmith and Run DMC.
Weirder things have happened, but from what I've heard from Kid Rock, with his lyrics, cadence and delivery, there's a lot that someone could blend seamlessly into Just Push Play.
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Post by gonzaloc on Jul 3, 2024 22:25:10 GMT -5
Agreed... that could be the case.
But I did hear the sample and it was definitely Kid's voice there, and a multitrack of JPP would have been needed to produce it, but at the same time, its been 20 years, and this could be just a "ghost memory" of mine.
I remember someone pointing to the fact that the loading screens of Guitar Hero Aerosmith had one bit of info stating that Kid had entered the studio with them, which, if true, could be a piece of info that confirms it. I never played the game, so don't know if its true. To my knowledge, Kid only performed Sweet Emotion with them on the Hall of Fame, and then Walk this Way in the WMA in 99 and the road in 2002.
If the disc was indeed real, it could have been an employee copy, a studio mix review copy, etc, not meant to be a promo or to be released.
Thanks for your answers everyone. Not a holy grail, but an interesting topic of a rarity.
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Post by gonzaloc on Jul 4, 2024 22:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by tomass on Jul 5, 2024 13:55:46 GMT -5
I would be interested in hearing this. Always liked Kid Rock.. Steven's hairstyle aside, that HOF performance of Sweet Emotion he did with them was great.
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Post by gonzaloc on Jul 5, 2024 18:10:02 GMT -5
Interestingly, the Guitar Hero Aerosmith game included a tidbit about the collaboration in a loading screen reading: “After the Hall of Fame Ceremony, Steven went to recut ‘Just Push Play’ with additional vocals from Kid Rock.” This serves as further evidence supporting the remix’s existence, dating the recording collab in late March 2001. The source of this tidbit was likely a casual conversation between the games producers and the band or management. aerosmithbackburner.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/guitar-hero.png?w=937
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Post by SaintChrisBeCool on Jul 8, 2024 21:58:50 GMT -5
The older I get, the less I care what people think, so I'll just say it - I love Just Push Play. I know its flawed, I know it sounds absolutely nothing like Toys and Rocks and Pump, but it's the record that really got me into the band in that special moment in my life, and even to this day I think it's actually a pretty unique record. It was so easy for everyone to say Aerosmith was selling out (more? again?), it's too poppy, whatever. But I would challenge just about anybody to find another record that sounds like JPP. It was slick and modern, but it's still got an Aerosmith stamp on it that I've never heard on another album really - including from that era.
ALL THAT SAID - I think just about any new Aerosmith recordings from the late 90s/early 00s ARE grails for me. I'd love to hear this. I know $80 is a lot but I'd happily pay that now for a produced Aerosmith recording we haven't heard before.
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Post by gonzaloc on Jul 9, 2024 17:53:26 GMT -5
I agree! I love JPP, it was the album that came out while I was finishing high school. I get the criticism, but it includes some really cool songs that were written when the digital era of music was happening, Aerosmith trying new things, looping, etc.
According to Marti Frederiksen the band "hates" the record because it was "fixed", meaning he as a co-producer quantized the drums, fixed any out of tune vocals, etc, hence loosing some of its raw Aerosmith sound. I still think it sounds great, crisp and clear.
I think now, 23 years later, they could easily reopen those sessions, and produce a remix of the album without the unnecessary digital effects that were too prominent in songs like Drop Dead, Trip Hoppin, Outta Your Head, etc. A more raw and real version of the record, more organic. And Im sure they have loads of outtakes from these sessions as well!
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Post by fwanger on Jul 10, 2024 18:36:56 GMT -5
I'm firmly in the Just Push Play is a great album camp as well. I also love Drop Dead and Trip Hoppin. I remember being a bit crushed on the old forum when they ran a poll on favorite songs and I was the only vote on Drop Dead Gorgeous and got pretty flamed by some of the others for my love of the song. And it hasn't changed. I still love that fucking song.
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Post by gonzaloc on Jul 11, 2024 22:27:58 GMT -5
Drop Dead Gorgeous is one that had way too many digital effects, and really didn't translate well live. Its cool that it was a kind of duet with Steven, but I don't think it works... the song is just a fkn Em chord and a riff, so I think maybe it lacked some more diversity... same with Light Inside, great verses, boring chorus hitting a single G chord for too long...
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Post by fwanger on Jul 12, 2024 9:11:59 GMT -5
What can I say? The heart loves what the heart loves. 🤷♀️
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