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Post by petertherock on Jan 31, 2022 20:58:33 GMT -5
And here I thought the UK just got rid of all their restrictions. I posted on Aerosmith’s facebook page that it’s not about safety, it’s about them not wanting to tour anymore. At their age who can blame them?
They don’t owe us anything more at this point. Other bands are touring and not having any problems. Kid Rock is going on what he says is his last major tour and he’s only 50 years old. I just wonder if the Fenway show will ever happen.
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Post by redvers76 on Feb 1, 2022 15:59:33 GMT -5
And here I thought the UK just got rid of all their restrictions. wont be long til we have them back.
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Feb 1, 2022 23:08:10 GMT -5
Great points anaix3l. There is so much out of their control at this point with ever changing restrictions, I can't blame them for cancelling. It's a logistical nightmare traveling internationally now. One positive test in their traveling party could royally screw up multiple dates. It's no surprise so many other bands have cancelled their European shows. It sucks for people that live less than 90 minutes from the venue, but for people that have to travel there is a lot of potential for headaches and bullshit. Then there is obviously the risk tolerance of the 5 guys in the band. Odds are at least a couple of them have had the virus by now, which could move the needle towards returning to the stage. Everyone's situation is different though, and you have to respect whatever decision they make in that regard.
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Post by pillis on Feb 5, 2022 7:27:21 GMT -5
i had ticket to budapest, prag and denmark. anybody know how they return the money? will they come automaticly to my bankaccount ? so frustrating. long wait for this cancellation. europe opening up and they could have done these tourdates. but EU is stopping it ...now they want vaccinepasses and who knows what more til the summer of 2023! i think an economic collaps is about here and some people like ordered this covidthing to set everything at PAUSE to if possible avoid or delay the collaps ! EU is done, crushed between russia, china, Africa and the us and here they only care about silly crazy totalitarian laws. People earn Shit especially in Mediterranean and eastern countries and the Eu doesn't care, it only raise taxes, interferes with national laws and demands more rigorous behavior from European countries and their citizens. They pride themselves for this multi billion recovery plan but we haven't seen a penny yet, everything is top secret we don't know what they're spending on (obviously not healthcare) while the UK, the Us and Japan simply rolled out economical support straight away 2 years ago. What a joke. And now I cannot go anywhere unless I show proof of a coerced drug treatment. Look I gladly took the vaccine last year because there were no mandates but as soon as they started beratting us it immediately started to feel like a totalitarian regime which European countries seem to love so much since forever. Big events will never take off again here, not anytime soon at least. It's a dark age here. Of course Aerosmith don't want to be involved in this bullshit. Anyway for Budapest I think they're refunding through funcode or livenation. Italy is bankrupt so they're probably giving us illegal vouchers to redeem with non existing events.
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Post by petertherock on Feb 8, 2022 3:40:13 GMT -5
And here I thought the UK just got rid of all their restrictions. wont be long til we have them back. I doubt it. People are waking up. You have the truckers basically shutting down Canada and a big protest of truckers is planned in DC for March. People aren’t doing the lockdowns, the masks and the mandates anymore. It probably won’t matter pretty soon anyway because WW3 is about to pop off with Russia with the Ukraine thing, China invading Taiwan and Biden not knowing what he’s doing starting a war. China and Russia already signed a pact promising to work together against the USA and Europe if anyone tries to stop them from invading where ever they want to invade. But that’s a post for another topic.
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Feb 8, 2022 14:49:48 GMT -5
I doubt it. People are waking up. You have the truckers basically shutting down Canada and a big protest of truckers is planned in DC for March. People aren’t doing the lockdowns, the masks and the mandates anymore. Yea, people are starting to see through the bullshit. Johns Hopkins released a study this past week saying lockdowns are 'Ill founded' and have virtually no effect on mortality. They aren't some right wing group either. They have a stellar reputation for being overly thorough and having extensive data to back their conclusions. They are always referenced by all the mainstream media, yet this one was completely ignored. Not argued or disputed, but just pretend it doesn't exist as it doesn't fit the current narrative, which is becoming a common occurrence. The only certainty in life is death, tomorrow isn't guaranteed for anyone regardless of any pandemic. It's been almost two years and at this point, corona is just a cold to 99% of the people who get it. Focus on protecting the vulnerable and let the rest of us get on with our lives.
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Post by redvers76 on Feb 9, 2022 10:28:41 GMT -5
It's been almost two years and at this point, corona is just a cold to 99% of the people who get it - as long as they’re fully vaccinated that is. Fixed it for you 😉
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Post by redvers76 on Feb 9, 2022 10:32:46 GMT -5
Johns Hopkins released a study this past week saying lockdowns are 'Ill founded' and have virtually no effect on mortality. They aren't some right wing group either. They have a stellar reputation for being overly thorough and having extensive data to back their conclusions. They are always referenced by all the mainstream media, yet this one was completely ignored. Except the media picked up on it, and the fact that it was one author (with a previous history of being anti mask mandate) who appears to have cherry picked the studies used for his “meta analysis” to produce the result he wanted. And it’s not peer reviewed. But please, tell me more about how this has been ignored because it “doesn’t fit MSM agenda”… www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10466995/New-study-says-lockdowns-reduced-COVID-mortality-2-percent.html
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Post by petertherock on Feb 9, 2022 11:52:23 GMT -5
It's been almost two years and at this point, corona is just a cold to 99% of the people who get it - as long as they’re fully vaccinated that is. Fixed it for you 😉 The vaxxed are getting heart disease and blood clots. There is a young girl (I think she’s 18) that had both legs amputated despite being fully vaxxed she got covid. The vaxxed are getting sick, going to the hospital, and dying at the same rate as the unvaxxed.
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Post by petertherock on Feb 9, 2022 11:54:06 GMT -5
Johns Hopkins released a study this past week saying lockdowns are 'Ill founded' and have virtually no effect on mortality. They aren't some right wing group either. They have a stellar reputation for being overly thorough and having extensive data to back their conclusions. They are always referenced by all the mainstream media, yet this one was completely ignored. Except the media picked up on it, and the fact that it was one author (with a previous history of being anti mask mandate) who appears to have cherry picked the studies used for his “meta analysis” to produce the result he wanted. And it’s not peer reviewed. But please, tell me more about how this has been ignored because it “doesn’t fit MSM agenda”… www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10466995/New-study-says-lockdowns-reduced-COVID-mortality-2-percent.html😂 🤡 now Biden is telling hospitals to review their covid deaths numbers and revise the number of deaths down to include only those who came in for covid and not people who came in for something else and also had covid.
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Feb 9, 2022 19:42:14 GMT -5
Not in the US they didn't. Which I admit I should have specified as the thread is about the European Tour. Conservatives sites did, which the Daily Mail appears to be. Are they considered MSM in the UK? For the rest, the report does not have 'one author' clicking on the link lists 3 on the cover page. I guess it's easier to attack one of them than refute their findings. 'Cherry picking' seems to be a stretch, Johns Hopkins has pretty high standards for what gets published. I see they are a top reference on BBC News in the Covid section, but not surprisingly there is no sign of this study there. They combed through over a thousand studies looking for anything that covered mortality rates related to lockdowns, and only studies that used empirical data. They have a reputation for being excessively thorough. I'm sure efforts have been made to show they 'cherry picked' studies as there is a lot of money in prolonging these emergency powers. So far that effort has been fruitless. While this study has not been peer reviewed yet, a search of the report states 22 of the 34 studies were, with the other 12 being working papers. And while the media's reaction to the study has been restrictions are being lifted earlier than expected, so mission accomplished!
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Post by pillis on Feb 10, 2022 6:01:35 GMT -5
I think lockdowns were good to slow down the pandemic at first now for this winter we thought we had the vaccines but vaccines have been administred too early and designed on an old variant so most vulnerable people weren't protected during the cold season. It was all a big strategic mess pushed by our frenetic leaders who all they wanted was to impress the public opinion and the markets with high numbers of vaccinations without thinking this from a medical perspective.
Also immunologists are worried these vaccines aren't very effective in the first place because if protection, whether it is actually provided or not, lasts only for a few months, then it will be impossible to grant a widespread immunity at the same time before covid peaks. Also these huge vaccination hubs drains personnel from hospitals on a daily basis.
I think they should provide a single shot between September and October to boost protection during winter and stop harassing us. Maybe improve our healthcare systems, therapies and preventative measures too instead of terrorizing us. We all have been suffering from some sort of paranoia or nocebo effect to some extent and people who were absolutely fine started to feel sick or got too worried over nothing really.
At this rate the live music industry is gonna die and it won't ever be the same.
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Post by ap on Feb 10, 2022 13:00:02 GMT -5
At this rate the live music industry is gonna die and it won't ever be the same. Not just the live music industry. Many industries are still afloat, but circling the drain. I was initially optimistic about recovery, assuming people were relatively sensible. Now, not so much. The damage is done. The actual health factors aside, division and distrust have rooted. Deeply. There's no vaccine for that, and rarely does it end well. On the other side, the power to control masses. Once they get a taste, they never willingly relinquish. Corruption and incompetence reign. Democracy is rotting from the inside. In simpler terms, we're fucked. It's appearing less and less like the world we knew through 2019 is ever fully returning.
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