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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Dec 30, 2022 9:58:32 GMT -5
It was the top story on Yahoo this morning, for whatever that is worth. Yahoo has targeted news articles based on your browsing history. I saw it there yesterday, today my top article is "12 Stunning Photos of WNBA Athletes in Sports Illustrated Swimsuit in St. Thomas". I don't recommend seeking that one out.
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Post by AeroCooper on Dec 30, 2022 10:18:14 GMT -5
It was the top story on Yahoo this morning, for whatever that is worth. Yahoo has targeted news articles based on your browsing history. I saw it there yesterday, today my top article is "12 Stunning Photos of WNBA Athletes in Sports Illustrated Swimsuit in St. Thomas". I don't recommend seeking that one out. Probably true, but most recommended articles on Yahoo are of no interest to me.
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Post by anaix3l on Dec 30, 2022 10:30:49 GMT -5
Yahoo has targeted news articles based on your browsing history. I saw it there yesterday, today my top article is "12 Stunning Photos of WNBA Athletes in Sports Illustrated Swimsuit in St. Thomas". I don't recommend seeking that one out. Probably true, but most recommended articles on Yahoo are of no interest to me. Oh, just because they do it doesn't mean they always get it right. In fact, most of the time, they don't.
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Post by aeronyc on Dec 30, 2022 10:40:55 GMT -5
I just hope this doesn't open a can of worms. '75 was a long time ago.... A different era. It's been well documented he was like a dog with 2 dicks throughout the 90's..... And by his own admission. The 90's is an entirely different era. As is now. Time will tell.... Same. It will be easy to pain Steven with a bad brush here. Hope I don’t have to stick all of my Aerosmith shirts in the closet I suppose I didn’t know about his 90’s behavior?
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Post by aerostooge on Dec 30, 2022 10:43:26 GMT -5
I just hope this doesn't open a can of worms. '75 was a long time ago.... A different era. It's been well documented he was like a dog with 2 dicks throughout the 90's..... And by his own admission. The 90's is an entirely different era. As is now. Time will tell.... Same. It will be easy to pain Steven with a bad brush here. Hope I don’t have to stick all of my Aerosmith shirts in the closet I suppose I didn’t know about his 90’s behavior? Just shagging about, I suppose. Just bits you read here and there. Nothing too naughty. But, you never know.... Time will tell.....
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Dec 30, 2022 12:25:30 GMT -5
Thankfully, this story doesn't appear to be gaining much traction. Mainly because it's digging up old news and this Wholecum character is being viewed as more of a look at me gold digger than a sympathetic victim. It's a last second Hail Mary to cash in. The whole #MeToo movement ended up overreaching, but was rooted in a good cause of protecting women from being pressured into unwanted sex in the workplace. When it stuck to that, most were behind it. Once it drifted towards cancelling anyone who ever said anything inappropriate, the tide started to turn against it. Letting this character hitch her wagon to it would only further erode that.
The MeToo thing mainly took down people who used their professional position and power to coerce sexual favors for employment and or advancement. For example, Hollywood executives who would tell young actresses if they wanted to get (or keep) a role to meet them in a hotel room, and if they didn't comply, not only would they lose the part but they would slander their reputation in the industry so they wouldn't get future work. This isn't the case here as it was a personal relationship. She joined the wenches throwing themselves at Steven, lo and behold it didn't work out. That's between the two of them.
Granted, Steven doesn't come out looking good in this whole situation, but how many times have we said that about him? That's the story of his life. On a personal level, he's no role model. He's far from the biggest ass when it comes to famous people, but he's got a long list of faults. However, as a singer in a rock and roll band, there are none better, so the guy has earned himself a lot of slack.
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Post by aerostooge on Dec 30, 2022 12:42:20 GMT -5
Tomorrow's digital chip paper. Be forgotten about.
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Post by aeronyc on Dec 30, 2022 13:12:09 GMT -5
Hope you’re right it doesn’t gain traction. It is on Drudge, NYPost, Daily Mail, Rolling Stone, Aerofantic, trending on Reddit. These aren’t exactly first class publications but the comment sections are majority against Steven
Hopefully other claims don’t emerge. People like to jump on the bandwagon for shit like this
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Post by 4bits4licks76 on Dec 30, 2022 14:04:08 GMT -5
The only thing she’s a victim of is bad parenting. Her parents are far more responsible for this period in her life. They knew Steven’s intentions and it seems they couldn’t have cared less.
Back in the early 70s rock stars hooking up with teenage girls was a norm. Technically illegal but usually most people looked the other way. This will be settled in short order. Just a money grab.
He’s not the fist as there have been others.
Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin Jerry Seinfeld dated a 17 year old when he was 38 Elvis started dating 14 year old Pricilla
Different eras, different norms and what was tolerated.
I’m not saying it’s ok for a 25 year old man to have a relationship with a 16 year old. But to go back 50 years and judge him now for what he and many other did when they were in their 20’s, at that time, and the fact he had her parent’s blessing is quite absurd.
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Post by petertherock on Dec 30, 2022 18:30:29 GMT -5
The only thing she’s a victim of is bad parenting. Her parents are far more responsible for this period in her life. They knew Steven’s intentions and it seems they couldn’t have cared less. Back in the early 70s rock stars hooking up with teenage girls was a norm. Technically illegal but usually most people looked the other way. This will be settled in short order. Just a money grab. He’s not the fist as there have been others. Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin Jerry Seinfeld dated a 17 year old when he was 38 Elvis started dating 14 year old Pricilla Different eras, different norms and what was tolerated. I’m not saying it’s ok for a 25 year old man to have a relationship with a 16 year old. But to go back 50 years and judge him now for what he and many other did when they were in their 20’s, at that time, and the fact he had her parent’s blessing is quite absurd. While I do agree, this is the era of believe all women and Democrats going after anyone and everyone that even have discredited claims of toxic masculinity or whatever they are calling it today. The Kavanaugh accusations were about 20-30 years ago if not more too but that didn’t matter to leftists. The only thing that might save Steven is he is a leftist so they might go easy on him.
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Post by petertherock on Dec 30, 2022 18:34:11 GMT -5
Some of the more outlandish things I have heard regarding the Holcomb story is Steven had Ray Tabano set Julia’s apartment on fire in an attempt to kill her to bury this story. Sounds pretty wild…but I doubt there is even a shred of reality to it.
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Dec 30, 2022 18:46:48 GMT -5
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Post by martisucks on Dec 30, 2022 18:59:50 GMT -5
Timeline-wise, I checked setlist.fm and Aerosmith played in Portland, OR at the Portland Memorial Coliseum on 11/29/73 and then played in Seattle at the Paramount Theatre the very next night, 11/30/73. So, those were the nights she specifically mentioned as when she met Steven and when they engaged in sexual activity.
The article states that "In the suit, Holcomb alleges that she 'was powerless to resist' Tyler’s 'power, fame and substantial financial ability'."
The problem that I have with that statement is that while Steven did ultimately get power, fame and substantial financial ability, he didn't really have any of those things in November of 1973 when they first met. At that time he was just a regional rock musician from New England who had sold around 30k copies or so of Aerosmith's debut album and he was attempting to help the band break nationwide. He did ultimately achieve power, fame and financial ability during Steven and Julia's time together but he truly didn't have those things in 1973 when they met. The band didn't really break out until 1975 when Toys made them an arena headliner. That's when the money, fame and power came.
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Post by AeroCooper on Dec 30, 2022 20:06:19 GMT -5
The only thing she’s a victim of is bad parenting. Her parents are far more responsible for this period in her life. They knew Steven’s intentions and it seems they couldn’t have cared less. Back in the early 70s rock stars hooking up with teenage girls was a norm. Technically illegal but usually most people looked the other way. This will be settled in short order. Just a money grab. He’s not the fist as there have been others. Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin Jerry Seinfeld dated a 17 year old when he was 38 Elvis started dating 14 year old Pricilla Different eras, different norms and what was tolerated. I’m not saying it’s ok for a 25 year old man to have a relationship with a 16 year old. But to go back 50 years and judge him now for what he and many other did when they were in their 20’s, at that time, and the fact he had her parent’s blessing is quite absurd. While I do agree, this is the era of believe all women and Democrats going after anyone and everyone that even have discredited claims of toxic masculinity or whatever they are calling it today. The Kavanaugh accusations were about 20-30 years ago if not more too but that didn’t matter to leftists. The only thing that might save Steven is he is a leftist so they might go easy on him. Not everything is about politics/political lines. When I read these kind of statements it makes me think of horoscopes that imply every Scorpio is fiery tempered or whatever, such a crock of shit.
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Post by aeronyc on Dec 30, 2022 21:16:55 GMT -5
Timeline-wise, I checked setlist.fm and Aerosmith played in Portland, OR at the Portland Memorial Coliseum on 11/29/73 and then played in Seattle at the Paramount Theatre the very next night, 11/30/73. So, those were the nights she specifically mentioned as when she met Steven and when they engaged in sexual activity. The article states that "In the suit, Holcomb alleges that she 'was powerless to resist' Tyler’s 'power, fame and substantial financial ability'." The problem that I have with that statement is that while Steven did ultimately get power, fame and substantial financial ability, he didn't really have any of those things in November of 1973 when they first met. At that time he was just a regional rock musician from New England who had sold around 30k copies or so of Aerosmith's debut album and he was attempting to help the band break nationwide. He did ultimately achieve power, fame and financial ability during Steven and Julia's time together but he truly didn't have those things in 1973 when they met. The band didn't really break out until 1975 when Toys made them an arena headliner. That's when the money, fame and power came. Really great point. They were struggling musicians at that stage. I also don’t understand how there are 50 unnamed defendants
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