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Post by englandsmith on Apr 10, 2014 15:56:36 GMT -5
Just wondering if there is a certain age of aero fan that appreciates/enjoys modern aerosmith. At 13 I heard Idwmat and I really liked it and bought nine lives and saw them live at the toxic twin towers ball the next year. From there I bought little south of sanity (I thought it was a greatest hits stupidly) everything I then bought I loved, first the geffen stuff, then gems. I remember the excitement of jpp coming out and I really liked the album. From there bobo and mfad have come out with the same anticipation and I have thoroughly enjoyed both. I really enjoy the classic albums and enjoy them more than the latter day stuff but still have great joy in listening to the 'new shit'. However my question is: if I'd been around during the 70's would I still think this way? Are there any older fans who really enjoy the new stuff too? I'm really not a fan of idwmat but I am so greatful to that song for introducing me to a-smith.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 15:59:01 GMT -5
Oh, englandsmith, the door you just opened...
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Post by AeroCooper on Apr 10, 2014 16:04:53 GMT -5
Well, this is a loaded topic that is the source of plenty of spirited debate, but I'll play...
My first intro to Aerosmith was Dream On, and then Toys In The Attic with WTW, and SE were the next things I heard, so yeah, I'm old school for sure.
My preference will always be the old stuff, but I also love about 75% of the new stuff, and like most of the rest. I'm grateful for the 2nd generation stuff, because besides liking most of it, it also keeps my favorite band touring constantly.
Sure, some will say that they could be a nostalgia band and tour on that, but it would be much harder to see them at a venue near you. I will say though that the set list would be much better if they went that route, for me anyway.
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Post by tomass on Apr 10, 2014 16:07:23 GMT -5
I technically grew up during the "new shit" era. PV (which I do like) came out when I was in middle school and PUMP and GAG came out when I was in high school but I never really got into anything after PV aside from a couple songs here and there. At best that has been the case ever since. There was always a little excitement when the new albums came out I guess but nothing that lasted. The one I liked the most I would say was 9 lives when it came out. Now I really could give a crap if I ever heard any of those songs again except for maybe PINK (Go Figure). BoBo was fun when it came out too but none of those songs are really go to songs for me anymore. Overall it is still my favorite and what I would call their most credible album since PV. At this point I wish they would stop with the new music because for me as an Aerosmith fan in the rock community JPP and MFAD are embarrassing and tough to witness. LET'S KEEP IT CLEAN!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 16:44:39 GMT -5
I also grew up in the 80's era of Aerosmith, but I find as I get older, the newer stuff takes more of a backseat to the older. That doesn't mean that I hate the new stuff. A lot of it I still listen to, although it doesn't get me the way it used to. My cutoff nowadays seems to be Nine Lives; I don't really go past that point much.
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Post by 4bits4licks76 on Apr 10, 2014 16:55:30 GMT -5
I was 10 when I discovered Aerosmith in '77, so, yeah, old school. I have pretty much accepted the newer stuff. I will listen when it comes on the radio, but I seldom go looking for it, except for BObo.
MFAD could have been a great record, but the tug of war between band members is obvious. A disjointed collection of rockers and sappy love songs. At this point, I cling to flashes of hard rock in their newer music. The following off MFAD are decent enough, but until today I have not listened to any of them since they came out. If the following were the actual record, it still wouldn't satisfy, but you could give them credit for trying to do a solid rock record with no sappy ballads and pop drivel. None of these are pop, in my opinion. They are solid rock songs, whether you like them or not.
This is my personal MFAD on iPod. 1. Shakey Ground 2. Legendary Child 3. Street Jesus 4. I'm Not Talking 5. Lover Alot 6. Freedom Fighter 7. Oh Yeah 8. Out Go The Lights 9. Another Last Goodbye
Off JPP I still like Beyond Beautiful and The Light inside, Under My Skin 9Lives....Full Circle, Aint that a bitch & 9Lives Grip....Eat the rich, but the lyrics ruin it...great riff though Pump...Janie, What it Takes, Elevator I guess (Yup- Janie, you gotta problem with that?) Vacation...Rag Doll, Hangman, Dude, st.John BOBO...everything
I do however, like everything from '73-'85. Some more than others, but nothing gets skipped when played.
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Post by nipmuchigh on Apr 10, 2014 17:09:26 GMT -5
I was 10 when Pump came out and I thought that was the best thing I had ever heard. Then I started listening farther back and it just got better and better. The song that really turned me off to their "new" stuff was I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing. I couldn't figure out why my favorite bad ass band would put out such a piece of crap (and still can't). I could put up with Cryin and Angel but that song made me a tad cynical towards the band. Just putting out pop garbage to climb the charts. But hey, it worked I guess.
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Post by 4bits4licks76 on Apr 10, 2014 17:19:39 GMT -5
I was 10 when Pump came out and I thought that was the best thing I had ever heard. Then I started listening farther back and it just got better and better. The song that really turned me off to their "new" stuff was I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing. I couldn't figure out why my favorite bad ass band would put out such a piece of crap (and still can't). I could put up with Cryin and Angel but that song made me a tad cynical towards the band. Just putting out pop garbage to climb the charts. But hey, it worked I guess. I give them a pass on recorded songs and records as I get that they always wanted and needed to stay relevant and current. But, I don't give them as much of a pass with their live shows. I always thought they could have did the "slight of hand thing". Maintain their hard rock edge live by limiting the pop and ballads. Let it be known that as a live band, they are going to rock. But Tyler had other ideas obviously. A 20 song set? 5 dedicated to the biggest 90's hits. 15 Kick ass rockers. That would have been a great formula, IMO.
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Post by nipmuchigh on Apr 10, 2014 17:58:27 GMT -5
First of all, a 20 song set list is a joke. And I don't want to hear about the age factor. If you can't do it then it's time to call it a career. The ratio should at least be 3:1 old to new songs. Maybe I am just living in dream world. Speaking of a dream, I would LOVE to see a set without WTW and Sweet E. Great Songs but I have heard em a million times..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 18:07:45 GMT -5
A 20 song set is realistic to what your going to get from Aerosmith nowadays unfortunately. They might go two or three over, but that is on a great night, not a good night. Sad to say but that is just how it is now with them.
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Post by 4bits4licks76 on Apr 10, 2014 18:27:26 GMT -5
First of all, a 20 song set list is a joke. And I don't want to hear about the age factor. If you can't do it then it's time to call it a career. The ratio should at least be 3:1 old to new songs. Maybe I am just living in dream world. Speaking of a dream, I would LOVE to see a set without WTW and Sweet E. Great Songs but I have heard em a million times.. It's about what they have always done. In the 70's, a 16-18 set was average. The early to mid 90's they were ding 22-24 songs. I think they were pushed into it by Collins. The Stones do 19-20 now, granted years ago they played over three hours, but that's never been Aerosmith's M.O.
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Post by tomass on Apr 10, 2014 22:08:42 GMT -5
First of all, a 20 song set list is a joke. And I don't want to hear about the age factor. If you can't do it then it's time to call it a career. The ratio should at least be 3:1 old to new songs. Maybe I am just living in dream world. Speaking of a dream, I would LOVE to see a set without WTW and Sweet E. Great Songs but I have heard em a million times.. I think 20 songs is acceptable, especially at their age. You will be lucky to get 20 songs from them these days actually. To me it is more about the length of the show. For the price they charge their fans, they just better play atleast 2 hours or come down to earth with the ticket prices.. I agree 100% with "The ratio should at least be 3:1 old to new songs"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 22:51:47 GMT -5
This is the #1 all-time debate topic of Aerosmith fandom.
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Post by jj on Apr 11, 2014 0:34:49 GMT -5
Bought Toys in the Attic in 1975 when I was in middle school. Next came Aerosmith, then Wings, then Rocks in 1976. Old school is still my favorite. But I do find songs I like on every album, just not as many as on the 70s records. Really, up through Pump I liked most of the songs. GAG and after I only liked 2-4 songs. Nine LIves is probably my least favorite. Never liked the sound of that one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 4:24:20 GMT -5
I was raised on the "Old shit" so I went that way..but don't hate ALL the new shit...some I can leave...some I can take
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