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Post by AeroCooper on Apr 20, 2014 18:20:58 GMT -5
What bands, rock or otherwise, can do no wrong in your eyes?
For me, there is only one, and that is Led Zeppelin. I can't think of a single song that I don't like. The guitars are impeccable and always interesting, they've done different genres without missing a beat, and the songs they recorded decades ago still stand up as the songs to beat today.
Honestly, I can't even think of any honorable mentions, because every other band that I love also has done numerous songs that just don't do it for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 18:33:52 GMT -5
The Jimi Hendrix Experience...
Agree on Zep..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 18:38:04 GMT -5
Tom Petty can do no wrong. U2 also if it were not for POP, otherwise not a bad song although Bono can be tiring.
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Post by AeroCooper on Apr 20, 2014 18:41:44 GMT -5
I thought of another one, although I'm sure many of you will disagree; The Beatles. The odd thing is, they aren't even a band I would list among my top ten, but I will give them their fair due, that they have never recorded a song that I don't like. Even the odd Revolution #9 is worth listening to occasionally....ok, by that I mean if you're f'ed up.
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Apr 20, 2014 18:49:07 GMT -5
I agree about Led Zeppelin and think a lot of people feel that way. I listened to Robert Plant's Now and Zen album recently. I'm not sure what the reaction to that was when it came out, but it seems like as a general rule that album is not to be spoken about. He gets a free pass for being in Led Zeppelin (which is ok by me).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 19:26:18 GMT -5
I will NOT disagree about the Beatles. Without them then things would have been different...
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Post by aerohead4life on Apr 20, 2014 19:34:16 GMT -5
I agree about Led Zeppelin and think a lot of people feel that way. I listened to Robert Plant's Now and Zen album recently. I'm not sure what the reaction to that was when it came out, but it seems like as a general rule that album is not to be spoken about. He gets a free pass for being in Led Zeppelin (which is ok by me). I have to disagree about Now and Zen. I thought it was a great album that would even stand up favorably without the free pass. Saw the tour and he killed in concert. I think a few others felt the same way like this quote.Now and Zen is an album by the former Led Zeppelin singer Robert Plant, released in 1988 (see 1988 in music) under the label Es Paranza. The album made the top 10 in both the U.S. and the UK, reaching #6 in the former, and #10 in the latter. The album was certified triple platinum by the RIAA on September 7, 2001.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 20:02:39 GMT -5
Honestly, I agree -- Led Zeppelin, and mainly because their career ended so early and they didn't have the opportunity to spend the 1990s making radio-friendly pop songs. We tend to give the benefit of the doubt to bands who have their careers tragically cut short. Some people will say that Led Zeppelin began to take a turn for the worse around "In Through The Out Door," but it seems like such a blasphemous thing to say. Led Zeppelin are one of those sacred rock bands who you don't criticize.
Agreed, they were seamlessly able to explore different genres, the guitars were impeccable and amazing and I'll also add that they were one of the most all-around musically talented bands to ever come along, because it wasn't just Jimmy Page who was an incredible guitarist, but Robert Plant is also one of the all-time most talented rock singers (I mean, really. He's talented at "really singing" in a way Steven Tyler, Bonn Scott and others aren't), John Bonham was one of rock's all time greatest and most influential drummers and John Paul Jones was a great bass player. It's hard to think of any other band with such an all-star lineup of musicians like that. Like in Aerosmith, nobody really stands out as a "top instrumentalist," you know? At best, most bands have one or two real standouts with a musical instrument. With Led Zeppelin, EVERYONE was a top instrumentalist.
Also AC/DC, but only because they rarely deviate from their tried-and-true formula. I don't really know if it qualifies as "can do no wrong" when you're a band that never takes any creative risks at all, but at least with AC/DC, you always know what you're getting and they've never had a major artistic disaster in their entire career.
Also, the Beatles. Criticizing them just seems kind of blasphemous and they broke up and quit before they had the opportunity to start sucking. John Lennon and Paul McCartney had a God-given gift for writing melodies, and they made rock music everything it is. I can't really think of anyone who doesn't like the Beatles -- if they didn't, they probably wouldn't admit to it, because the Beatles are certainly a "can do no wrong" band as far as general public opinion goes.
This thread has made me realize that most of my all-time favorite bands have had quite a few epic fails. It's really hard to think of a band that's never made a really horrible and lame record. Even the bands I love the most, like Aerosmith and Judas Priest, have really made tons of awful creative decisions and produced loads of truly cringeworthy music.
The only "perfect bands" I can think of have had very short careers. Queensryche were a ridiculously talented and creative band who produced four (and a half) absolutely flawless records before it all went south, and they've just sucked consistently for the past 20 years with one cringeworthy record after the next.
And, I guess, it's sad to say, we don't know what kind of cringeworthy music Led Zep or the Beatles might've produced if they'd gone on making records for 30 years.
And, it's also sad to say that we don't know what kind of cringeworthy music AC/DC might produced if they'd ever tried to be creative and innovative.
So, I guess the lesson in all of this is: We are all flawed, fallible human beings and it's pretty darn impossible for any of us to be consistently awesome. I really can't think of any long-lived band who's "never done wrong." They've all gone wrong at some point or another.
As much as I rip Aerosmith, I can also rip any other long-term rock band. From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to rip these musicians apart for their various creative failures, but it must be tremendously difficult to actually do it -- to actually face that pressure to live up to your legacy, and to continue to create awesome rock music 30 years down the road from where you started. So many bands manage to produce awesome debut records, but following it up with a dozen more is a superhumanly impossible task. ALL of my favorite bands have my respect, I could never do what they do!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 20:37:25 GMT -5
I'd like to throw Bob Seger into the mix also. Just look at some of his great songs and then a few of his lesser known, all are superb. Night Moves, Turn the Page, Roll Me Away, Fire Down Below, Fire Lake, Still the Same, Mainstreet, Hollywood Nights, Against the Wind, Like A Rock, and on and on and on.....
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Post by AeroCooper on Apr 20, 2014 20:44:54 GMT -5
I'd like to throw Bob Seger into the mix also. Just look at some of his great songs and then a few of his lesser known, all are superb. Night Moves, Turn the Page, Roll Me Away, Fire Down Below, Fire Lake, Still the Same, Mainstreet, Hollywood Nights, Against the Wind, Like A Rock, and on and on and on..... Good call, I'll second that.
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Post by aerognr87 on Apr 20, 2014 22:06:47 GMT -5
Definitely agree with Led Zeppelin. I'd like to agree on AC/DC, but find a lot of their mid-late 80s stuff to be forgettable and underwhelming.
I would argue Guns N' Roses, since I believe they ended in 1994 and consider the lineup after then to be an Axl Rose solo career.
I feel like there were several short-lived bands in the 60s that never missed a beat. CCR comes to mind.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 22:48:50 GMT -5
I did not enjoy The Spaghetti Incident!
I loved the Use Your Illusion records, but they were overblown and pompous at the same time, and I think GNR were already tanking at that point. I think they peaked with Appetite For Destruction -- but Appetite was such a perfect and glorious masterpiece of rock perfection that it's hard to really go up from there and improve on that. That's the tough thing about being a rock star - how do you "follow up" on one of the greatest rock records ever made? What a lot of pressure, and what a lot to live up to.
I know it sounds mental to say this, because G'n'R were certainly one of the biggest bands in the world in the late 1980s-early 1990s, but I feel like they never truly managed to put it all together like they were probably capable of doing. As successful as they were, I always think of them as a band that didn't quite manage to live up to their full potential. I think they could've been better than Aerosmith.
I want to mention Nirvana -- they're kind of a little bit in a different genre than what we're talking about, but I don't think they missed a single beat during their brief career. Also, Jimi Hendrix was another genius with a tragically-short career. We'll never know if these artists might've started sucking really badly 10 or 20 years down the road, but they don't really have any cringe-inducing music attributed to them.
And, what about Cream? They were pretty short-lived too, but I have a pretty hard time thinking of a time where Cream failed to be awesome. What about Eric Clapton's body of work? Has he ever really screwed it up and made us cringe? I guess a lot of people cringed over "Pilgrim," but apart from that, hasn't he been pretty consistent?
Every "can do no wrong" can I can think of had a short career. Everyone I can think of who's been in it for the long haul has had their share of terrible records.
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Post by aerognr87 on Apr 20, 2014 23:19:53 GMT -5
I did not enjoy The Spaghetti Incident! I loved the Use Your Illusion records, but they were overblown and pompous at the same time, and I think GNR were already tanking at that point. I think they peaked with Appetite For Destruction -- but Appetite was such a perfect and glorious masterpiece of rock perfection that it's hard to really go up from there and improve on that. That's the tough thing about being a rock star - how do you "follow up" on one of the greatest rock records ever made? What a lot of pressure, and what a lot to live up to. I know it sounds mental to say this, because G'n'R were certainly one of the biggest bands in the world in the late 1980s-early 1990s, but I feel like they never truly managed to put it all together like they were probably capable of doing. As successful as they were, I always think of them as a band that didn't quite manage to live up to their full potential. I think they could've been better than Aerosmith. I want to mention Nirvana -- they're kind of a little bit in a different genre than what we're talking about, but I don't think they missed a single beat during their brief career. Also, Jimi Hendrix was another genius with a tragically-short career. We'll never know if these artists might've started sucking really badly 10 or 20 years down the road, but they don't really have any cringe-inducing music attributed to them. And, what about Cream? They were pretty short-lived too, but I have a pretty hard time thinking of a time where Cream failed to be awesome. What about Eric Clapton's body of work? Has he ever really screwed it up and made us cringe? I guess a lot of people cringed over "Pilgrim," but apart from that, hasn't he been pretty consistent? Every "can do no wrong" can I can think of had a short career. Everyone I can think of who's been in it for the long haul has had their share of terrible records. While it's hard to top Appetite, I love the Illusion records too. I like several of the songs on The Spaghetti Incident. A few of the songs I may skip over, but there's really nothing terrible there IMO. Definitely agree on Hendrix and Nirvana as well.
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Post by jj on Apr 21, 2014 10:11:04 GMT -5
I can't think of any one band that I like every song. Even Zep had some duds for me (sorry folks). Perhaps the closest for me is Rush, but even they have some songs I skip.
I common theme in this thread, "it is better to burn out than fade away."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 11:20:12 GMT -5
Exactly what I was thinking!!
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