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Post by petertherock on Aug 5, 2020 17:56:50 GMT -5
Imagine calling other artists music shitty when she or her band hasn’t put out anything worthwhile in many years...she’s gone full feminazi with full blown stage 5 TDS...
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Post by AeroCooper on Aug 6, 2020 6:10:34 GMT -5
To get this out of the way, I don't care about Hayley Williams one way or the other. Not even familiar with her music.
That being said, the point of her post is to not be irresponsible during the pandemic, not about shitty music. I'm guessing you disagree with those who think the pandemic is serious, and that is why you took that tiny part of her speech that mentioned music and ran with it?
You also mention "TDS"...I had to google it since I've never heard that one before. Either you meant a different TDS, or you're confused. The TDS I found is this one:
Since Trump seems to think we are all over reacting to the pandemic, I would say she is not in agreeance with him.
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Post by petertherock on Aug 6, 2020 10:12:28 GMT -5
To get this out of the way, I don't care about Hayley Williams one way or the other. Not even familiar with her music.
That being said, the point of her post is to not be irresponsible during the pandemic, not about shitty music. I'm guessing you disagree with those who think the pandemic is serious, and that is why you took that tiny part of her speech that mentioned music and ran with it?
You also mention "TDS"...I had to google it since I've never heard that one before. Either you meant a different TDS, or you're confused. The TDS I found is this one: Since Trump seems to think we are all over reacting to the pandemic, I would say she is not in agreeance with him.
Yeah, you have TDS... Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a social mental illness that manifests itself in the refusal to accept the results of the 2016 elections. This ailment belongs to the category of political psychosis. Unlike most other mental disorders, TDS is a contagious disease that can cause epidemics and even pandemics. This syndrome is caused by the new neuropathologic coronavirus Bacillus Anti-Trumpicus (2016-nCoV). The virus, entering the human brain, selectively eats only those neurons responsible for a coherent political worldview. Theoretically, the disease is incurable, although some countries have announced successful attempts to combat the epidemic and control the spread of infection. One of the best known symptoms of TDS is the complete lack of logic in patients' behavior. For example, those afflicted with this disease claim that "President Trump is a lifelong dictator and fascist. Therefore, in the 2020 elections, we must choose a different, democratic president." For those who still do not see a logical contradiction in this phrase, we can say with confidence that your prognosis is unfavorable. For those who see it, this expression serves as a kind of warning: "Beware — a sick person is before you. You should not argue with him. You should not discuss any serious problems with this individual; do not debate or argue with a schizophrenic. This person needs neuropsychiatric help, not fruitless discussions." The coronavirus Bacillus Anti-Trumpicus belongs to a well studied class of pathogens known as the Hidden Dogma of Collectivism (Occultatum Fascismo Decretum). www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/trump_derangement_syndrome_diagnosis_and_treatment.html
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Post by petertherock on Aug 6, 2020 10:18:33 GMT -5
To get this out of the way, I don't care about Hayley Williams one way or the other. Not even familiar with her music.
That being said, the point of her post is to not be irresponsible during the pandemic, not about shitty music. I'm guessing you disagree with those who think the pandemic is serious, and that is why you took that tiny part of her speech that mentioned music and ran with it?
You also mention "TDS"...I had to google it since I've never heard that one before. Either you meant a different TDS, or you're confused. The TDS I found is this one: Since Trump seems to think we are all over reacting to the pandemic, I would say she is not in agreeance with him.
Also, I have never heard President Trump say we are overreacting to the virus. I do believe there is an overreaction to this even if Trump hasn’t said it. We are talking about a virus with a 99.6% survival rate. Most people that get it have no symptoms at all or very mild symptoms. Over half of the deaths are from about 5 states that are run by Democrats that forced people with Covid to go back into nursing homes where they infected everyone else.
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Post by petertherock on Aug 6, 2020 10:19:29 GMT -5
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Post by petertherock on Aug 6, 2020 10:25:24 GMT -5
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Post by redvers76 on Aug 6, 2020 16:54:39 GMT -5
Must... not... reply... to... stupid... ah goddamnit you quoted some bullshit stats, I gotta step in...
Looking purely at American figures, 159k deaths from 4.86m confirmed cases gives a “he’s dead, Jim” rate of about 3.3%. Assuming all the rest of the 4.86m people survived (some may still be ill and therefore are in the “haven’t died *yet*” category, that’s a 96.7% survival rate. Most of the rest of the world that figure is nearer 96%.
What this means is, for every 25 people who get Covid, 1 dies.
Now if those odds aren’t too scary, what happens to the other 24? Well, they’re still trying to figure it out but quite a lot of them end up with severe lung damage and will be incapacitated for life. They may have survived, but they’ll never be back to full health. And the great thing about this virus seems to be that you can get the lung damage without any symptoms of being ill! Great long tail impact there!
But hey, this is just a bad flu season, right? Given that flu would normally kill tens of thousands out of tens of millions infected, it means Covid is around 25 times more deadly than the flu. So yeah, I’d say that’s pretty bad.
And before you start commenting about me being anti Trump or having read some “facts and figures” that have been “scientifically researched” and have “evidence” behind them, of course - I’m European!
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Post by redvers76 on Aug 6, 2020 16:57:49 GMT -5
H1N1 had around 61m cases and around 12,500 deaths. So Covid is around 165 times more deadly than H1N1 but you think it shouldn’t be cause for a pandemic, because there wasn’t one for H1N1?
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Post by petertherock on Aug 6, 2020 17:56:58 GMT -5
Must... not... reply... to... stupid... ah goddamnit you quoted some bullshit stats, I gotta step in... Looking purely at American figures, 159k deaths from 4.86m confirmed cases gives a “he’s dead, Jim” rate of about 3.3%. Assuming all the rest of the 4.86m people survived (some may still be ill and therefore are in the “haven’t died *yet*” category, that’s a 96.7% survival rate. Most of the rest of the world that figure is nearer 96%. What this means is, for every 25 people who get Covid, 1 dies. Now if those odds aren’t too scary, what happens to the other 24? Well, they’re still trying to figure it out but quite a lot of them end up with severe lung damage and will be incapacitated for life. They may have survived, but they’ll never be back to full health. And the great thing about this virus seems to be that you can get the lung damage without any symptoms of being ill! Great long tail impact there! But hey, this is just a bad flu season, right? Given that flu would normally kill tens of thousands out of tens of millions infected, it means Covid is around 25 times more deadly than the flu. So yeah, I’d say that’s pretty bad. And before you start commenting about me being anti Trump or having read some “facts and figures” that have been “scientifically researched” and have “evidence” behind them, of course - I’m European!
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Post by petertherock on Aug 6, 2020 19:07:00 GMT -5
Here’s the thing, we’re all going to die eventually. Some will die young, some will die old, and some will die somewhere in “middle age.” I could die on my inflatable boat, I could die on my motorcycle or I could die in my bed tonight. You have a much better chance of getting killed in a car accident then you do of the Wuhan virus. I’ve known people that were very healthy all their lives and died very young from cancer. I’ve known people that drank and smoked all their lives and lived to a ripe old age.
The bottom line is that no one knows how much time we have on this earth and I’m not going to waste my life cowering in fear from a virus that I have a 0.6% chance of dying from.
The best way to keep from getting this virus or any virus or illness for that matter is to eliminate sugar from your diet, including alcohol, don’t smoke and live a healthy life and get plenty of vitamin C and D. You should at least get 30 minutes of direct sunlight a day with no sun block (even if you break it down into two 15 minute segments to keep from getting burned.)
Of course I’m one to talk because honestly, I’ve got a lot of work to do on the staying healthy stuff. But the bottom line is I’m not going to live in fear. If you want to then by all means, knock yourself out.
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Post by redvers76 on Aug 7, 2020 2:00:28 GMT -5
The table you are showing is not correct; the real data is on page 5 at this link which is the proper paper : www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/predicted-covid-19-fatality-rates-based-age-sex-comorbidities-and-health-system-capacity.pdfAs you can see, for those 80+ particularly with any health conditions (and be honest most 80+ people have some health conditions) their chances of dying are quite high. And remember, those who don’t die might still end up with life long effects, and we don’t have stats on those yet! “They’re going to die at some point why not now?” Err okay Thanos, let’s just have a cull on the elderly, right? But where do you draw the line? You’re elderly to some, what if you’re on the wrong side of that line? Here’s the thing. This virus is showing up the religious in America for their hypocrisy. No-one is saying to you to wear a mask because *you* might get it, they’re asking you to “love thy neighbour” and wear a mask for your fellow man. Protect each other, ensure that it doesn’t spread, and therefore doesn’t kill more people. But people would rather be selfish and say that they don’t care about anyone else, they don’t want to wear a mask. The lowest number on the chart is 0.0003 for kids aged 0-9. They have a survival rate of 99.9997%, fantastic right? No. It means that for every 3400 in that age group who get the virus, one will die. The more people the virus spreads to, the more likely that will be someone you know, maybe even someone in your family.
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Post by petertherock on Aug 7, 2020 16:20:08 GMT -5
The table you are showing is not correct; the real data is on page 5 at this link which is the proper paper : www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/predicted-covid-19-fatality-rates-based-age-sex-comorbidities-and-health-system-capacity.pdfAs you can see, for those 80+ particularly with any health conditions (and be honest most 80+ people have some health conditions) their chances of dying are quite high. And remember, those who don’t die might still end up with life long effects, and we don’t have stats on those yet! “They’re going to die at some point why not now?” Err okay Thanos, let’s just have a cull on the elderly, right? But where do you draw the line? You’re elderly to some, what if you’re on the wrong side of that line? Here’s the thing. This virus is showing up the religious in America for their hypocrisy. No-one is saying to you to wear a mask because *you* might get it, they’re asking you to “love thy neighbour” and wear a mask for your fellow man. Protect each other, ensure that it doesn’t spread, and therefore doesn’t kill more people. But people would rather be selfish and say that they don’t care about anyone else, they don’t want to wear a mask. The lowest number on the chart is 0.0003 for kids aged 0-9. They have a survival rate of 99.9997%, fantastic right? No. It means that for every 3400 in that age group who get the virus, one will die. The more people the virus spreads to, the more likely that will be someone you know, maybe even someone in your family. Asking me to wear a mask to protect you is like asking me to go jogging to help you lose weight. Masks don’t do anything except get the wearer sick.
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Post by redvers76 on Aug 8, 2020 1:19:01 GMT -5
The table you are showing is not correct; the real data is on page 5 at this link which is the proper paper : www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/predicted-covid-19-fatality-rates-based-age-sex-comorbidities-and-health-system-capacity.pdfAs you can see, for those 80+ particularly with any health conditions (and be honest most 80+ people have some health conditions) their chances of dying are quite high. And remember, those who don’t die might still end up with life long effects, and we don’t have stats on those yet! “They’re going to die at some point why not now?” Err okay Thanos, let’s just have a cull on the elderly, right? But where do you draw the line? You’re elderly to some, what if you’re on the wrong side of that line? Here’s the thing. This virus is showing up the religious in America for their hypocrisy. No-one is saying to you to wear a mask because *you* might get it, they’re asking you to “love thy neighbour” and wear a mask for your fellow man. Protect each other, ensure that it doesn’t spread, and therefore doesn’t kill more people. But people would rather be selfish and say that they don’t care about anyone else, they don’t want to wear a mask. The lowest number on the chart is 0.0003 for kids aged 0-9. They have a survival rate of 99.9997%, fantastic right? No. It means that for every 3400 in that age group who get the virus, one will die. The more people the virus spreads to, the more likely that will be someone you know, maybe even someone in your family. Asking me to wear a mask to protect you is like asking me to go jogging to help you lose weight. Masks don’t do anything except get the wearer sick. Not true, masks prevent airborne particles containing the virus from travelling very far. If you have it and cough, lots of spittle drops teeming with virus go everywhere. If you’re wearing a mask, they get trapped. Me wearing a mask doesn’t help me too much unless it’s a full on surgical soldier type thing, but it will reduce the chances of me catching something if you’re wearing a mask too. Put on a mask and try blowing out a candle. And then back up your claim about them making the wearer ill. 👍🏻
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Post by petertherock on Aug 8, 2020 7:05:44 GMT -5
Asking me to wear a mask to protect you is like asking me to go jogging to help you lose weight. Masks don’t do anything except get the wearer sick. Not true, masks prevent airborne particles containing the virus from travelling very far. If you have it and cough, lots of spittle drops teeming with virus go everywhere. If you’re wearing a mask, they get trapped. Me wearing a mask doesn’t help me too much unless it’s a full on surgical soldier type thing, but it will reduce the chances of me catching something if you’re wearing a mask too. Put on a mask and try blowing out a candle. And then back up your claim about them making the wearer ill. 👍🏻 www.globalresearch.ca/face-masks-pose-serious-risks-healthy/5712649By wearing a mask, the exhaled viruses will not be able to escape and will concentrate in the nasal passages, enter the olfactory nerves and travel into the brain.” — Russell Blaylock, MD Researchers found that about a third of the workers developed headaches with use of the mask, most had preexisting headaches that were worsened by the mask wearing, and 60% required pain medications for relief. As to the cause of the headaches, while straps and pressure from the mask could be causative, the bulk of the evidence points toward hypoxia and/or hypercapnia as the cause. That is, a reduction in blood oxygenation (hypoxia) or an elevation in blood C02 (hypercapnia). It is known that the N95 mask, if worn for hours, can reduce blood oxygenation as much as 20%, which can lead to a loss of consciousness, as happened to the hapless fellow driving around alone in his car wearing an N95 mask, causing him to pass out, and to crash his car and sustain injuries. I am sure that we have several cases of elderly individuals or any person with poor lung function passing out, hitting their head. This, of course, can lead to death. A more recent study involving 159 healthcare workers aged 21 to 35 years of age found that 81% developed headaches from wearing a face mask. Some had pre-existing headaches that were precipitated by the masks. All felt like the headaches affected their work performance. Unfortunately, no one is telling the frail elderly and those with lung diseases, such as COPD, emphysema or pulmonary fibrosis, of these dangers when wearing a facial mask of any kind—which can cause a severe worsening of lung function. This also includes lung cancer patients and people having had lung surgery, especially with partial resection or even the removal of a whole lung. Unmasking the Truth: Studies Show Dehumanizing Masks Weaken You and Don’t Protect You The importance of these findings is that a drop in oxygen levels (hypoxia) is associated with an impairment in immunity. Studies have shown that hypoxia can inhibit the type of main immune cells used to fight viral infections called the CD4+ T-lymphocyte. This occurs because the hypoxia increases the level of a compound called hypoxia inducible factor-1 (HIF-1), which inhibits T-lymphocytes and stimulates a powerful immune inhibitor cell called the Tregs. This sets the stage for contracting any infection, including COVID-19 and making the consequences of that infection much graver. In essence, your mask may very well put you at an increased risk of infections and if so, having a much worse outcome. People with cancer, especially if the cancer has spread, will be at a further risk from prolonged hypoxia as the cancer grows best in a microenvironment that is low in oxygen. Low oxygen also promotes inflammation which can promote the growth, invasion and spread of cancers. Repeated episodes of hypoxia have been proposed as a significant factor in atherosclerosis and hence increases all cardiovascular (heart attacks) and cerebrovascular (strokes) diseases. There is another danger to wearing these masks on a daily basis, especially if worn for several hours. When a person is infected with a respiratory virus, they will expel some of the virus with each breath. If they are wearing a mask, especially an N95 mask or other tightly fitting mask, they will be constantly rebreathing the viruses, raising the concentration of the virus in the lungs and the nasal passages. We know that people who have the worst reactions to the coronavirus have the highest concentrations of the virus early on. And this leads to the deadly cytokine storm in a selected number. It gets even more frightening. Newer evidence suggests that in some cases the virus can enter the brain. In most instances it enters the brain by way of the olfactory nerves (smell nerves), which connect directly with the area of the brain dealing with recent memory and memory consolidation. By wearing a mask, the exhaled viruses will not be able to escape and will concentrate in the nasal passages, enter the olfactory nerves and travel into the brain.”
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Post by redvers76 on Aug 8, 2020 11:58:23 GMT -5
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