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Post by aerozhul on Apr 20, 2024 23:05:55 GMT -5
Been traveling for work all week and finally got a day at home today and am relaxing with a few beers and watching some live Aero on YouTube. I was watching the Woodstock ‘94 show (man, what a great show), and when they played Mama Kin they had Thom Gimbel do a sax solo.
Just curious as to what everyone’s thoughts are on this today. I know adding sax to rock was a thing in the 80s, but this seemed a little late in ‘94, especially at Woodstock. No offense to Thom Gimbel (he was great) or anyone else that plays the ‘phone, but I thought it was a bit cringe.
Just my opinion!
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Post by aerostooge on Apr 21, 2024 2:42:48 GMT -5
Been traveling for work all week and finally got a day at home today and am relaxing with a few beers and watching some live Aero on YouTube. I was watching the Woodstock ‘94 show (man, what a great show), and when they played Mama Kin they had Thom Gimbel do a sax solo. Just curious as to what everyone’s thoughts are on this today. I know adding sax to rock was a thing in the 80s, but this seemed a little late in ‘94, especially at Woodstock. No offense to Thom Gimbel (he was great) or anyone else that plays the ‘phone, but I thought it was a bit cringe. Just my opinion! There's saxophone on the original recorded version. There's saxophone all over a lot of early 'Smiff. They were an R&B band, essentially. Just with the guitars turned up to 11 and in your face.
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Post by AeroCooper on Apr 21, 2024 6:24:46 GMT -5
I liked it then, and I like it now.
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Post by tedz on Apr 21, 2024 9:33:05 GMT -5
I don't have an issue with it.
Ted
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Apr 21, 2024 13:28:54 GMT -5
I've seen them with a live sax player for Mama Kin and Same Old Song and Dance multiple times. I think a few other tracks too, but those were the most prominent.
Since they were written and recorded with the sax part, I prefer that they include it live.
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Post by selloutrus on Apr 21, 2024 15:46:21 GMT -5
And let's not forget the sheer awesomeness and brilliance of Chiquita!!!!
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Post by aeronyc on Apr 21, 2024 17:23:17 GMT -5
Saxophone goes a long way with Aerosmith’s music, in my opinion. If anything they need more!
As an aside, a new artist I’ve been into lately is Sam Fender. Lots of saxophone over his music - it’s refreshing in today’s age
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Post by tomass on Apr 22, 2024 10:55:30 GMT -5
I bever really considered Sax an 80's thing. I think Aerosmith always used the Sax pretty tastefully and it worked well whenever they decided to use it. Always a cool addition live as well.
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Post by aeroknows on Apr 22, 2024 11:05:47 GMT -5
The tenor sax especially is what is played in rock n roll, although bari and alto also get a fair shake. Not too much soprano I don't think. Think Phil Kenzie and Bobby Keys. and Billy Joel's guy. It's a very soulful instrument of which I have heard a ton of the last 15 or so years, as my son majors in Saxophone Performance. He plays classical sax which is getting more respect now than in the past. But, from Duke Ellington to Gerry Mulligan to the classical to the atonal stuff a group Prism Quartet might do it's a very versatile instrument. Like a violin played in a string quartet or in a country hoedown or in a band like Kansas, it's always what you do with it. It's only been around since the 1840's...less than 200 years! Year of the Cat(Kenzie), NY State of Mind are so soulful and lonely. As mentioned Chiquita, and Bitch are more moving and grooving. It's not about what ya got but what you do with it. I like the solo for Mama even though my kid is indifferent to it. When it comes to rock n roll sax he's a little "Jaded".
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Post by aerostooge on Apr 22, 2024 11:20:08 GMT -5
That groove and rhythm that is so rooted in Aerosmith is what separated them from their 70's and 80's peers, I always thought. Absolutely integral to their sound and style. Why wouldn't horns be involved?
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