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Post by lin on Jul 20, 2014 8:22:07 GMT -5
WOW WOW WOW!! One) Romneycare and Obamacare are almost one in the same. I do not give a flying shit how you want to spin it. It was the FIRST push to National Health Care. Which is WHY Romney tried like hell to distance himself from it. HE damned well KNOWS he began the ball rolling to where we are today. Lordy you are a sheep. 2) The NSA Spying BEGAN under Bush. You better pay better attention to things. kdvr.com/2013/12/21/declassified-documents-show-nsa-spying-started-under-bush-grew-under-obama/ (Fox News baby) 3) R's and D's are ONE in the same when you boil it down. Problem with America is this: That people like you buy into the bullshit they are different. Not when you boil it all down. NEITHER side gives a flying shit about you or me OR following their oaths they took when they were sworn in. In the end, they BOTH sides do the same things...wake the hell up. You love that R behind a name just because they say what YOU want to hear but they do nothing different than the other side. Pay attention, BE proactive and LOOK at all sides and into issues beyond what you are being spoon fed by the powers that be. You are so right Heather. It's all a game. Believe me, I see it first hand.
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Post by lin on Jul 20, 2014 8:24:03 GMT -5
Daryl did say that. The only difference is Republicans sit there and pray the democrats will throw trillions at anything except: military, infrastructure and schools....only things the feds should tax or pay for, so that the republicans can save far and not do it themselves. Watch, Obama will get his $4billion for God knows what from republicans and the children and their parents will be absorbed into the country at a cost to the states. Yeah....because if God forbid the R's don't give the trillions to Obama that means they hate the children and want to eat them or something. Also very true... it's all in the spin.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 17:03:41 GMT -5
Sorry could not log on while away on my laptop. If anyone has a clue about SSL and encryption I would be grateful to have them step up. Daryl: I read what you say with half an eye and a laugh. Because you say that NOW BUT I KNOW from previous experience in what you post, YOU will be right back towing the R rhetoric line as soon as something else comes up. And flip flop right back to everything the R's say is gospel. So what you said here is just you trying to justify things for now. I have NO issues with my reading comprehension. since1976 you will see it and figure it out after a while It took me a while but I did. lin I am sure you do see it. I wish more Americans did and maybe we would see some real change in this country, not the slippery slope we are on now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 23:26:23 GMT -5
I wish they would not bring this up. Obama will punish us for the thought and pull the military from protecting the continental United States.
Republican Voters Want To Impeach The President. Good Luck With That.
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) and other Republicans calling for the impeachment of President Barack Obama might want to take a look at the history books and the U.S. Constitution before getting too excited about the idea.
Congress rarely uses its power to impeach, and when it has, impeachment has only infrequently -- and in the case of a president, never -- resulted in removal from office. Congress has initiated impeachment proceedings more than 60 times in the history of the United States. Just 19 of those cases have been tried by the Senate, and only eight federal judges have ever been convicted and removed from office.
Although House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has maintained he is not interested in pursuing impeachment, a top White House aide said Friday that he expected House Republicans to do just that. And a recent HuffPost/YouGov poll shows that one-third of Americans and two-thirds of Republicans believe Obama should be impeached. These numbers reflect an increasingly popular view in conservative circles, which Palin gave voice to earlier this month when she claimed the recent surge of undocumented immigrants at the border was an example of the president's "rewarding of lawlessness."
But Republicans have already cited a number of reasons they're hesitant to file articles of impeachment against the president, including impracticality and potential political consequences in November. Perhaps most importantly, however, both history and the language of the Constitution suggest they'd fail if they tried.
In 1974, President Richard Nixon resigned rather than face potential removal from office after the House Judiciary Committee approved three articles of impeachment against him, in the face of overwhelming evidence that he'd used "dirty tricks" against his political rivals. GOP lawmakers are also likely wary of the lessons learned in their efforts to impeach President Bill Clinton in 1998. Clinton's approval rating actually jumped to an all-time high after the House successfully impeached him on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice after the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Clinton was later acquitted by the Senate.
So, why do some conservatives appear to think this would be more of a Nixon than a Clinton situation?
According to Article II, section 4 of the U.S. Constitution, "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." Palin and others have called for Obama's impeachment over a number of perceived scandals, ranging from the mishandling of Obamacare's rollout to his taking military action without getting approval from Congress. But it's unclear, really, whether they're suggesting that his role in these controversies constitutes "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" -- Palin's column mentions none of those terms.
Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, earlier this month offered perhaps the most sober rebuke to the calls for impeachment.
“The Constitution is very clear as to what constitutes grounds for impeachment of the President of the United States," he told ABC's "This Week." "He has not committed the kind of criminal acts that call for that.”
To get an idea of the kind of crimes that do lead to impeachment, the most recent successful proceeding was in 2010, when the Senate voted to remove G. Thomas Porteous, Jr. from the federal bench. Porteous was charged with taking bribes from lawyers who had business before his court. Porteous' removal was the first time that the Senate had removed a federal judge in more than 20 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 7:04:22 GMT -5
Sarah Palin....scary person LOL.
IMO: So if they were to try...where does this leave us? With Joe Biden as President IF they managed to get enough votes in the Senate (Dem Controlled) to remove him from office. So basically just a waste of time and money, money we cannot afford to waste. Sure people want him gone, but most do not get to remove him the Senate needs to do that if the House gets the votes to impeach.
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Post by petertherock on Jul 27, 2014 15:28:55 GMT -5
Some powerful Republicans in Congress said they will immediately impeach Obama if he gives all the illegals amnesty by executive order. I would be in favor of this and I bet there will be a lot of Democrats that would go along with this. If Obama doesn't like something in the Constitution he will just ignore it and use his pen and phone.
Now Obama wants to send planes to South America to pick up all the kids that want to come here and fly them here, and you wonder why the Republicans don't want to give him the money? They are sending these kids to all these places that have no money to help them. Most states don't have the money to deal with our own kids and people that need help...and now Obama is shipping millions more takers into this country? If Obama were white or a Republican he would already have been impeached and removed from office.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 0:13:06 GMT -5
Clinton was impeached but remained, so no worry regarding Bieden.
Yes Darryl/Daryl, Obama said he would do that and he has just lost his mind I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 5:03:05 GMT -5
So, why use impeachment if you aren't going to remove him from office? He probably wouldn't resign...so what is the purpose and how would it help us, the people?
And yes, Obama is a liar and doing to many things he swore he would not do. And does things he like using signing statements to bypass the Congress...making this country a mess.
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Post by petertherock on Jul 28, 2014 8:11:35 GMT -5
The amnesty by executive order will be something that will get him removed from office. This "President" is moving bunches of illegals into these states...both Republican and Democratic states and now they have to pay for them. Most of these states are already strapped for money and now each kid needs to go to school and have interpreters. Who's going to pay for this? They will also need medical and food and housing. Who's paying for this? The President sent a bunch of these kids here to Maine and didn't even tell our governor until our governor asked White House aids while on a conference call for another matter.
This is why Gov. Perry and Texas has called in the national guard to put on the border in defiance of Obama.
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