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Post by gwb on Oct 7, 2014 8:42:44 GMT -5
I personally quite like the idea of it being a country influenced album (Though I like country anyway!) A lot of modern country sounds more rock now anyway, (See Eric Church). The country influence can be heard in some 2nd generation Aerosmith songs too, such as; Crazy, What It Takes (To an extent), Can't Stop Loving You, What Could Have Been Love and Sedona Sunrise - Possibly the closest to country Aerosmith has ever been. Besides, this is a Steven Tyler record, not an Aerosmith one so I think it'd be interesting to hear him tackle a different genre. Still, about a year or so ago, he was talking about working with Psy and Deadmau5 (A terrible idea), so this whole country thing is more of a "I'll believe it when I see/hear it" kinda thing as far as I see. THIS is how disagreement should be handled on this forum. Legendarydude likes the idea, and I (and some others) don't like the idea. We both had our say without implying the other person shouldn't be voicing their opinion.
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Post by SaintChrisBeCool on Oct 7, 2014 9:53:40 GMT -5
I don't mind Steven doing some country. Not a country fan usually, but I've always liked how Aerosmith (and its members) have never been afraid to jump to different genres. In all honesty, I'll probably buy anything Steven and/or Joe put out because that's just the way I am…I need to have it all, regardless of the quality. Haha. That said, I will always jump on Steven's solo material way faster than Joe's.
And I agree with legendarydude… a year ago he was talking about Psy and Deadmau5…country ST is much MUCH better than anything he could have done with either of those jokers. And supposedly the Psy track was recorded and completed a while ago, so I'd put money that we'll have to hear it someday. If there's something Aerosmith or its band members-related that I might refuse to buy, it will probably be that track.
Unless its somehow good.
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Post by bartman2001 on Oct 7, 2014 15:27:44 GMT -5
Could be interesting could be crap. If he does it in a Neil Young, Wilco, Gram Parsons, Stones kinda way it might be worth a listen. If its the typical pop crap country that's being peddled over the past 20 years or so it will proably suck.
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Post by petertherock on Oct 7, 2014 21:16:33 GMT -5
Maybe Steven will work with Carrie Underwood or Taylor Swift...maybe even Miranda Lambert!
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Post by jj on Oct 7, 2014 22:42:42 GMT -5
I agree that I won't buy either album most likely, but yes, I will give them a chance first. I've never cared for Joe's solo material either. I guess i'm not a Joe/Steven fan, I'm an Aerosmith fan. Weird to think about, but there's a huge difference. ^^This. Although, I do really like the First Joe Perry Project album quite a lot. Second one, a two or three songs. Third one on....nope.
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Post by oldaero on Oct 8, 2014 2:56:09 GMT -5
Steven's not getting any younger, although many people wish he was. For many years all Aerosmith has done is try to please their fans. And, for the last few years, they seem to have fallen short of that with their new albums. Yet, their concert tours seem to have gone well.
There's no reason to bitch about an artist trying something new. After all, it's HIS life that he's living, not ours.
Steven is getting up in his years,,, if he wants to try something new, then so-be-it. There's no reason to criticize and complain. Maybe he's got his own "bucket list" that he wants to fulfill. Maybe he wants to do something for himself... and have a lil bit of fun.. for himself...
Should we all post about each of YOUR lives and tell you how you should spend your last years?
Good Luck, Steven,,, ENJOY!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 4:21:30 GMT -5
Steven's not getting any younger, although many people wish he was. For many years all Aerosmith has done is try to please their fans. And, for the last few years, they seem to have fallen short of that with their new albums. Yet, their concert tours seem to have gone well. There's no reason to bitch about an artist trying something new. After all, it's HIS life that he's living, not ours. Steven is getting up in his years,,, if he wants to try something new, then so-be-it. There's no reason to criticize and complain. Maybe he's got his own "bucket list" that he wants to fulfill. Maybe he wants to do something for himself... and have a lil bit of fun.. for himself... Should we all post about each of YOUR lives and tell you how you should spend your last years? Good Luck, Steven,,, ENJOY!! Someone who gets it...great post Dan. Hope all is well with you.
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Post by AeroCooper on Oct 8, 2014 5:09:36 GMT -5
No one is saying "Don't do that Steven", at least not the way I've read the comments here. If I'm wrong then please show me where someone said he shouldn't do a country album. What we are saying is that in our opinion (most of us) country sucks and this probably will too IF it is country. Just because it is Steven Tyler singing it doesn't mean that I'm going to suddenly like something that has grated on me for my whole life. Steven can record an album of pure yodeling for all I care if that's what floats his boat these days, but it doesn't mean I'm going to like it or buy it. I'll never suggest that he shouldn't do it though, because someone will probably enjoy it, just not me.
(yes, edited for my own reasons)
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Post by lin on Oct 8, 2014 7:07:16 GMT -5
Should we all post about each of YOUR lives and tell you how you should spend your last years? As far as I'm concerned, no one should tell anyone how they should live. Last years, first years, any years. Steven can do whatever he wants, as we all can. If he wants to do country now (what happened to skrillex and deadmau5?)that's fine. But since I hate almost all country, with the exception of Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Hank Jr. and a few others like them, then I am not really interested in purchasing a Steven Tyler country album and so no... I don't need anyone telling me how to spend my years or my money or my time, thank you very much.
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Post by gwb on Oct 8, 2014 12:13:37 GMT -5
Steven's not getting any younger, although many people wish he was. For many years all Aerosmith has done is try to please their fans. And, for the last few years, they seem to have fallen short of that with their new albums. Yet, their concert tours seem to have gone well. There's no reason to bitch about an artist trying something new. After all, it's HIS life that he's living, not ours. Steven is getting up in his years,,, if he wants to try something new, then so-be-it. There's no reason to criticize and complain. Maybe he's got his own "bucket list" that he wants to fulfill. Maybe he wants to do something for himself... and have a lil bit of fun.. for himself... Should we all post about each of YOUR lives and tell you how you should spend your last years? Good Luck, Steven,,, ENJOY!! I understand this, and even agree with it to a point. However, the thing that bothers me is how Steven ignores a large part of the greatest stuff they ever made (rare stuff from Wings, Toys, Rocks and EVERYTHING from Ruts, DWM, etc.), but then he finds time to do these silly (imo) types of projects. Why can he not do a dvd re-reshoot of those great songs (studio or live), and/or start to play more of them live? The fact that he cannot find time to play or re-record those great old songs but then finds time for silly projects (again imo) is what bothers me, not the fact that he is doing something on the side per se. What is preventing him from doing things that he finds "interesting" AND doing things that will please old time fans, instead of always only focusing on himself and the "generic" fan?
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Post by nick on Oct 8, 2014 12:36:58 GMT -5
Steven's not getting any younger, although many people wish he was. For many years all Aerosmith has done is try to please their fans. And, for the last few years, they seem to have fallen short of that with their new albums. Yet, their concert tours seem to have gone well. There's no reason to bitch about an artist trying something new. After all, it's HIS life that he's living, not ours. Steven is getting up in his years,,, if he wants to try something new, then so-be-it. There's no reason to criticize and complain. Maybe he's got his own "bucket list" that he wants to fulfill. Maybe he wants to do something for himself... and have a lil bit of fun.. for himself... Should we all post about each of YOUR lives and tell you how you should spend your last years? Good Luck, Steven,,, ENJOY!! I understand this, and even agree with it to a point. However, the thing that bothers me is how Steven ignores a large part of the greatest stuff they ever made (rare stuff from Wings, Toys, Rocks and EVERYTHING from Ruts, DWM, etc.), but then he finds time to do these silly (imo) types of projects. Why can he not do a dvd re-reshoot of those great songs (studio or live), and/or start to play more of them live? The fact that he cannot find time to play or re-record those great old songs but then finds time for silly projects (again imo) is what bothers me, not the fact that he is doing something on the side per se. What is preventing him from doing things that he finds "interesting" AND doing things that will please old time fans, instead of always only focusing on himself and the "generic" fan? I totally agree that they should play their great lesser known songs live. But I disagree on rerecording them. Those songs are fucking perfect! Most people on here wouldnt even like the way it sounds, I mean part of what makes those songs and albums great is the production and mastering of those songs. And dont get me wrong Steven sounds great but his voice on those 70s albums was grittier and overall just better in my opinion. Plus it takes you back to who they were when they were younger when you listen to those albums, how they sounded, the tone of the guitars and amps they were using, all of that. Rerecording those songs would be a waste of time, money and energy. For example I honestly didn't like the rerecorded songs that they put on guitar hero. I mean I liked them but not nearly as much as the originals. For example on make it I thought the band sounded kind of uptight and almost uninterested. And it 's funny becuase they have said they were a bit of uptight on the original recording. Movin out sounded good though. But I still like the original version better. Anyway I totally agree with you that they should really play some more rarities off of their pre 1987 albums. And I do understand why youd like to hear new reacording of some of the older songs, I just think if they're going in to the studio it should be to record some new songs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 12:49:05 GMT -5
I'm kinda eh about it. Its not surprising. He's done little things in country before (mainly just guest spots--i.e., the Willie Nelson gig, the Carrie Underwood mashup thing). Will I buy it? Probably. Will I listen to it a lot? Probably not. I'll probably listen to it about as much as the last two Joe Perry solo albums, which isn't saying much.
Honestly, I'm more interested in this rumor going around that Brad is working on a Whitford/St. Holmes album. I think I'd be more interested in that than anything else.
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Post by gwb on Oct 8, 2014 13:51:07 GMT -5
No one is saying "Don't do that Steven", at least not the way I've read the comments here. If I'm wrong then please show me where someone said he shouldn't do a country album. What we are saying is that in our opinion (most of us) country sucks and this probably will too IF it is country. Just because it is Steven Tyler singing it doesn't mean that I'm going to suddenly like something that has grated on me for my whole life. Steven can record an album of pure yodeling for all I care if that's what floats his boat these days, but it doesn't mean I'm going to like it or buy it. I'll never suggest that he shouldn't do it though, because someone will probably enjoy it, just not me. (yes, edited for my own reasons) Great post, Coop. Some people here obviously like to twist and turn other peoples' comments into whatever they want to justify going on another diatribe to attack those people while always defending ST. The thing that surprises me about these people is they always revert to the same basic point: "Steven has a right to do whatever he wants to", despite the rest of us constantly telling them that we never said he doesn't have a right to do it. We just don't like the idea of it. Saying somebody doesn't have a right to do something is different than saying we don't like the idea of it. Unfortunately after all these times, I've finally come to the conclusion that these folks are too idealistic and/or too dumb to see this distinction.
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Post by aerognr87 on Oct 8, 2014 18:05:03 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to it. And I think it's important not to pass judgement on the album before you actually hear it. I mean, who knows, it could be more songs like Cryin' and Crazy. It could be filled with duets like Can't Stop Loving You. Or maybe even include upbeat rockers like Fever...which Garth Brooks actually covered (basically changing the lyrics and adding a very prominent fiddle). In fact, there are a lot of country-rock artists out there these days. I would even go so far as to say some Brantley Gilbert songs could be considered country-metal (look up "Kick it in the Sticks"). It could be more laid-back like Dierks Bentley or the Lost Highway album that Bon Jovi put out in 2007. It could be more old school country and twangy. It could be more new-country and modern sounding like Luke Bryan or Jason Aldean. It could be something entirely different. Who knows. Given it's Steven we're talking about here, it probably will be something entirely different.
Whatever the case, I'm glad Steven is exploring the country genre more. Not only am I glad to see him try something different and pursue something he's passionate about, but country is also one of the few bright spots left in the music industry, and I think Steven's album could have some crossover success depending on who he surrounds himself with, which would be great for Aerosmith building an audience again so we can continue to see them every year. Frankly, I've grown to love the country genre more and more every year, particularly as the country genre has broadened to be more mainstream, including more hooks and melodies and elements as diverse as rock, metal, pop, dance, and even rap, while staying true to their roots and connecting with their audience with lyrics and stories they can relate to.
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Post by Zen on Oct 9, 2014 13:45:46 GMT -5
Not quite sure what to say.....
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