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Post by AeroCooper on Aug 22, 2018 9:10:34 GMT -5
Steven Tyler Demands Trump Stop Playing Aerosmith Songs at Rallies Shirley Halperin 2 hrs ago Aerosmith singer Steven Tyler is demanding President Donald Trump stop using the band’s songs at rallies, like the one held at the Charleston Civic Center in West Virginia on Tuesday (August 21). The band’s 1993 hit “Livin’ on the Edge” was played as Trump devotees entered the venue, which has a capacity of 13,500. Tyler has in turn sent a “cease and desist” letter through his attorney Dina LaPolt to the White House accusing the President of willful infringement in broadcasting the song, which was written by Tyler, Joe Perry and Mark Hudson. Citing the Lanham Act, which prohibits “any false designation or misleading description or representation of fact … likely to cause confusion … as to the affiliation, connection, or association of such person with another person,” Tyler’s attorney contends that playing an Aerosmith song in a public arena gives the false impression that Tyler is endorsing Trump’s presidency. The matter has come up previously with another Aerosmith song, “Dream On,” which Trump used during his 2015 election campaign. Following a similar letter stating, “Trump for President needs our client’s express written permission in order to use his music” and that the campaign “was violating Mr. Tyler’s copyright,” BMI drove the point home and pulled the public performance rights for the song. Public performance rights for “Livin’ on the Edge” are administered by ASCAP. The scene in WV before Trump’s rally. Aerosmith’s “Livin’ on the edge” playing.[/p]
During the rally, President Trump spoke about immigration, trade and politics, peppered with his usual banter about Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Earlier in the day, Michael Cohen, Trump’s longtime former personal attorney, pleaded guilty to eight criminal counts in federal court on Tuesday, including campaign finance violations related to payments made to women who claim to have had affairs with Trump.
Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, was also found guilty Tuesday on eight of 18 counts in his federal trial over fraud charges. The case involved work Manafort did on behalf of a pro-Russian government in Ukraine. Shortly after the verdicts were announced, President Trump told reporters: “I feel badly for Paul Manafort” and called him “a good man.”
Read portions of Tyler’s letter to the White House below:
It has come to our attention that President Donald J. Trump and/or The Trump Organization (collectively, “Mr. Trump”) have been using our client’s song “Livin’ On The Edge” in connection with political rally events (the Rallies”), including at an event held yesterday at the Charleston Civic Center in Charleston, West Virginia on August 21, 2018. As expressly outlined in the Previous Letters, Mr. Trump does not have our client’s permission to use any of our client’s music, including “Livin’ On The Edge”.
What makes this violation even more egregious is that Mr. Trump’s use of our client’s music was previously shut down, not once, but two times, during his campaign for presidency in 2015. Please see the Previous Letters sent on behalf of our client attached here as Exhibit A. Due to your receipt of the Previous Letters, such conduct is clearly willful, subjecting Mr. Trump to the maximum penalty under the law.
As we have made clear numerous times, Mr. Trump is creating the false impression that our client has given his consent for the use of his music, and even that he endorses the presidency of Mr. Trump. By using “Livin’ On The Edge” without our client’s permission, Mr. Trump is falsely implying that our client, once again, endorses his campaign and/or his presidency, as evidenced by actual confusion seen from the reactions of our client’s fans all over social media. This specifically violates Section 43 of the Lanham Act, as it “is likely to cause confusion, or to cause mistake, or to deceive as to the affiliation, connection, or association of such person with another person.”
Further, as we have also made clear, Mr. Trump needs our client’s express written permission in order to use his music. We demanded Mr. Tyler’s public performance societies terminate their licenses with you in 2015 in connection with “Dream On” and any other musical compositions written or co-written by Mr. Tyler. As such, we are unaware of any remaining public performance license still in existence which grants Mr. Trump the right use his music in connection with the Rallies or any other purpose. If Mr. Trump has any such license, please forward it to our attention immediately.
In addition, Mr. Tyler’s voice is easily recognizable and central to his identity, and any use thereof wrongfully misappropriates his rights of publicity. Mr. Trump does not have any right to use the name, image, voice or likeness of our client, without his express written permission.
www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/steven-tyler-demands-trump-stop-playing-aerosmith-songs-at-rallies/ar-BBMhl8F?ocid=ientp
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Post by selloutrus on Aug 22, 2018 11:28:11 GMT -5
Tyler can eff off. Hope Pres plays even more Aerosmith. Really strange that Tyler would rather share a classic song with someone named Post Malone than let My President play a snippet of of ac fairly lame song.
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Post by redvers76 on Aug 22, 2018 14:55:34 GMT -5
Tyler has copyright, so it's up to him if the cheater in chief can use it or not!
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Post by tomass on Aug 22, 2018 19:39:45 GMT -5
Not a fan of this. I heard them talking about it on the radio early but they were saying "Aerosmith" rather than Steven.. I didn't get hung up on it but it did cross my mind that Joe is conservative and wondered how he felt. Not that being a conservative means he is a Trump fan or determines how he feels about Trump using the song. I thought the letter was written well either way.
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Post by AeroCooper on Aug 23, 2018 5:05:47 GMT -5
Taking politics out of it, it doesn't matter if it's Trump or Obama or Chevrolet or CBS. It's common knowledge that you can't go around using someone else's copyrighted material to promote your own brand without prior consent/compensation.
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Post by anaix3l on Aug 23, 2018 9:42:07 GMT -5
I honestly don't even get why this is even causing any discussion. No permission, no using the song, end of story.
Joe's with Steven on this.
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Aug 23, 2018 12:43:13 GMT -5
Steven comes across as a dumb-ass here. Besides the caps lock, I understand wanting to stay out of the political climate, but these tweets and public releases of letters do the exact opposite.
These artists must not think very highly of their fan's intelligence levels to assume they are so easily confused. Their music is played at sporting events, weddings, and other gatherings all over the place. Does anyone think they personally approve of anyone who plays their music? Of course not. Just pay the royalties and nobody cares about what happens at the event.
Granted, I'm sure these slimy politicians never make the payments, but Steven has always pandered to the crowd in front of him, and the only ones who would even know a song was played at a political rally, would be people at said rally. For example, has an artist ever told a sports team not to play their music because they don't want anyone to think they root for that team? I doubt it, they want to pander to everyone in the arena.
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Post by tomass on Aug 23, 2018 12:47:48 GMT -5
The song kind of sucks anyway.... I wish someone would send the band a cease and desist so they will stop playing it every show and make make room for something good. Some might like it but it definitely isn't the caliber of song to play every show and every tour for 25 years..
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Post by black911 on Aug 23, 2018 23:57:02 GMT -5
Last I read ST sold off his rights to all his music. Besides, if Joe can stand next to Obama without puking for Steven then Steven should let this go for Joe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 16:41:03 GMT -5
I believe Steven when he says politics don't enter in as he has complained in the past about politicians using Aerosmith music. Anyway, wasn't he invited to the RNC by Trump in 2016? I think he leans more red than blue anyway, although honestly I feel they (all celebs) are red behind closed doors and blue in front of the cameras.
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Post by petertherock on Aug 25, 2018 10:34:58 GMT -5
www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/22/steven-tyler-sends-trump-cease-and-desist-letter-over-playing-aerosmith-songs-at-rallies.htmlSorry Steven, you don’t have a case. Anyone can play your songs anywhere they want in public places as long as they aren’t making money off of it. You jerk! Seriously, between this and the story of the two fans who had the bad experience with Tyler, I am thinking I am done with this band. It’s been a great ride but I can’t support a band that treats their fans this way and makes a big deal about POTUS using one of their songs at rally’s. Seems that Steven is just a cranky old man now. I wonder how Joe feels about this...I know at one time he did support Trump, but he’s probably turned on him like all Hollywood leftists.
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Post by redvers76 on Aug 25, 2018 11:05:37 GMT -5
Actually you cannot play music in public without a licence. Legally, Trump hasn’t got a leg to stand on. Not that he cares about whether or not stuff is legal or moral.
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Post by petertherock on Aug 25, 2018 11:19:09 GMT -5
Actually you cannot play music in public without a licence. Legally, Trump hasn’t got a leg to stand on. Not that he cares about whether or not stuff is legal or moral. Not true...otherwise DJ’s would never be able to play any songs at high school dances or anywhere else, weddings, etc. If I buy the CD, MP3 or whatever, I can play it wherever I want as long as I’m not making money from it. Actually...DJ’s do make money when they do an event and they still play the songs. Tyler doesn’t have a case. |
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Post by redvers76 on Aug 25, 2018 11:31:03 GMT -5
Read the legalese on the CD: “Unauthorized copying, lending, public performance and broadcasting prohibited.” That means you. Recording companies, musicians, and songwriters own the copyright, and are entitled to royalties every time the music is performed or played in public. From : planyourmeetings.com/using-music-at-public-events/Here in the U.K. a shop cannot even have a radio playing in the corner unless they have a licence for it! As much as you love him, Trump is in the wrong over this. |
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Post by petertherock on Aug 25, 2018 12:05:49 GMT -5
Read the legalese on the CD: “Unauthorized copying, lending, public performance and broadcasting prohibited.” That means you. Recording companies, musicians, and songwriters own the copyright, and are entitled to royalties every time the music is performed or played in public. From : planyourmeetings.com/using-music-at-public-events/Here in the U.K. a shop cannot even have a radio playing in the corner unless they have a licence for it! As much as you love him, Trump is in the wrong over this. This isn’t the UK...this is the USA...in almost all cases, the venue has paid royalties for any songs that are played there. The music is played at sporting events, and all kinds of other events. Steven isn’t even going after the copyright angle, he knows that’s a losing cause, he is claiming that the use of his music confuses people into thinking he endorses a person. A lot of artists have tried this...the law on this is very vague and sketchy which is why this kind of thing hasn’t been very successful. Most people do stop when asked to do so, but Steven has picked a fight with the wrong person....someone who has no problem fighting just as hard. What Steven has been successful at is alienating at least half his US fans. Read his twitter feed, lots of people burning their Aerosmith music, pointing out that he’s a pedophile, posting pictures with him and President Trump together and just hammering him. I have been a fan since 1989 and I am about ready to delete all Aerosmith music from my ipod/ipad/iPhone. I wouldn’t want Steven to send me a cease and desist letter telling me not to play his music where others can hear it since people might think Steven supports me. |
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