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Post by warmaker on Aug 31, 2022 17:57:31 GMT -5
So... I got email from Aerosmith... fanclub? Customer service? Management? Support? Anyhow, my question was: " I remember that around 2 years ago the layout of sectors was quite different and there was also a catwalk. Now I can't see it anymore and the "GA turf pit" is much bigger and in front of A3, A4, A5 sectors. So I was wondering if this current layout on your website is valid and that's how it's going to be? No catwalk?" And here's what I've got: " Apologies for the confusion. We do not sell tickets to any Aerosmith shows, we only provide links for fans to buy tickets from outside ticketing websites. Whoever your point of purchase was (Ticketmaster, AXS, third-party sites, etc.) is responsible for your ticket and should have an answer to your question. Please reach out to your point of purchase for further assistance." What's wrong with these people? PS. I still have not heard from Redsox ticket office.
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Post by pillis on Sept 9, 2022 1:57:24 GMT -5
Setlist :
Setlist Back in the Saddle Same Old Song and Dance Rag Doll Mama Kin Remember (Walking in the Sand) Stop Messin' Around Cryin' Hangman Jury Seasons of Wither Toys in the Attic Livin' on the Edge The Other Side I Don't Want to Miss a Thing Love in an Elevator Draw the Line Dude (Looks Like a Lady)
Encore: Dream On Sweet Emotion Walk This Way
Basically the Same they switched full Circle and big ten inchiavabile for toys and draw The line which are actually more played so this makes this set even more predictable. Still Full Circle didn't sound good and I'm curious to hear how they played DTL at their age. Overall not an amazing selection imho.
I watched some videos and... these are not great performances. Cryin, seasons, Dream on all sounded very bad. SOSAD, Dude, DTL and Saddle sounded ok. Didn't check the rest much. I hope they can warm up, Steven's voice is still there but he's all over the place forgetting lyrics, missing cues, out of breath, focused on playing the piano poorly instead of singing... I think at this point they need to reconsider the way they perform, the order of the tracks to allow Steven's voice to rest between more challenging songs, bring Joey back or at least someone who can do him justice and maybe do more rehearsals? Put to rest songs that sound bad live no matter how popular they are...
I remember the Vegas show was so complex, they had many musicians, laser and flame effects, stage props.. everything had to be tight and well timed and without Kramer it's going to be a very difficult thing to pull off.
I think they are still rocking hard at their age but I wouldn't spend too much on these shows.
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Post by aerostooge on Sept 9, 2022 3:12:51 GMT -5
Decent enough setlist, I reckon. Bit of something for everyone, and a reasonable length. Shame about that predictable encore, though. Did they really have to do The Big 3 together?
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Post by 4bits4licks76 on Sept 9, 2022 5:59:08 GMT -5
Setlist : Setlist Back in the Saddle Same Old Song and Dance Rag Doll Mama Kin Remember (Walking in the Sand) Stop Messin' Around Cryin' Hangman Jury Seasons of Wither Toys in the Attic Livin' on the Edge The Other Side I Don't Want to Miss a Thing Love in an Elevator Draw the Line Dude (Looks Like a Lady) Encore: Dream On Sweet Emotion Walk This Way Basically the Same they switched full Circle and big ten inchiavabile for toys and draw The line which are actually more played so this makes this set even more predictable. Still Full Circle didn't sound good and I'm curious to hear how they played DTL at their age. Overall not an amazing selection imho. I watched some videos and... these are not great performances. Cryin, seasons, Dream on all sounded very bad. SOSAD, Dude, DTL and Saddle sounded ok. Didn't check the rest much. I hope they can warm up, Steven's voice is still there but he's all over the place forgetting lyrics, missing cues, out of breath, focused on playing the piano poorly instead of singing... I think at this point they need to reconsider the way they perform, the order of the tracks to allow Steven's voice to rest between more challenging songs, bring Joey back or at least someone who can do him justice and maybe do more rehearsals? Put to rest songs that sound bad live no matter how popular they are... I remember the Vegas show was so complex, they had many musicians, laser and flame effects, stage props.. everything had to be tight and well timed and without Kramer it's going to be a very difficult thing to pull off. I think they are still rocking hard at their age but I wouldn't spend too much on these shows. Since I was there, and not critiquing the show from YouTube, I’ll advise everyone to ignore this ridiculously inaccurate review. I’ll do a proper review later, but in short they sounded great, not perfect, but they had the place singing and dancing from beginning to end. The set list was great even though I wished there was one more deep gem, all in all, for all the 70’s songs they delivered, I’d be a whiney bitch to complain. We’re there a few minor hick-ups? Yeah, but this is rock’n roll, who cares? It was a magical night, everyone was in a great mood, and they really did deliver for Fenway. More details to come. Maybe.
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Post by fwanger on Sept 9, 2022 6:18:16 GMT -5
I'm intrigued to hear your review 4bits. This is a complete 180 from your attitude coming out of the first Fenway show.
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Post by aeronyc on Sept 9, 2022 6:34:39 GMT -5
I'm intrigued to hear your review 4bits. This is a complete 180 from your attitude coming out of the first Fenway show. VoodooMedicineMan has a great review in the Roll Call thread. Not sure which one we should be using. I was at the show at the rail of GA. I honestly thought Pills YouTube assessment was pretty accurate. To me there wasn’t nearly enough audience interaction given the specialness of this concert and how it was billed. There was a good energy but something felt tired about it. I get these guys are past their prime and they did sound great. Just wish the show felt more unique compared to the 5 Vegas and East Coast Run shows I saw in 2019. It felt like the same show accept a much larger venue on a much bigger stage. Steven did miss a verse on Dream On, which got super disjointed. Glad I saw it but doubt I’ll make the effort to get to Vegas this time (had planned on going to the opening night)
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Post by pillis on Sept 9, 2022 7:04:58 GMT -5
I really do not want to take away the fun and the magic someone experienced at a concert. The show seemed fun, the big venue and fairly long setlist definitely created a great atmosphere I'm sure.
Still, my ears didn't like how they sound on many of the songs, nitpicking I know but I just saw them play better versions of these songs and with more passion.
As for them not having a stadium "feel" I don't know, I was supposed to see them in a stadium for the first time in Budapest but we all know how that went... between indoor arena, Vegas and outdoor festivals, I think they work best in a festival setting. Hearing 3-4 other lesser bands in preparation to the climax and having a huge and diverse crowd really adds to the tension and energy of the moment.
Vegas has an amazing stage design and an incredible and elaborate production for a rock band their age but it all feels too cold and calculated like they're on autopilot. I guess I could say the same for every Vegas residency for that matter. You lose the magic of a multi city multi country tour. But still it was a great endeavor in 2019-20, now I think it's a tired, recycled project to get easily back into motion without the stress and hardships of dealing with EU policies regarding covid. I honestly see these early shows and gigs in Vegas as rehearsals for a proper tour.
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Post by aeronyc on Sept 9, 2022 7:07:11 GMT -5
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Post by petertherock on Sept 9, 2022 7:39:32 GMT -5
Obviously I wasn’t there but Steven has been forgetting lyrics and add libbing his entire career…at least since the 1990s. Sure, it’s probably happening a lot more now but they are all in their 70s so it’s expected. Set lists are OK…better than some, worse than others…but for only being 2 shows into the tour, it’s not bad. Usually the first few shows have the worst set lists and if this is the worst…than it’s not that bad. Of course without Joey we can’t expect much from a fill in drummer.
I am glad to see Brad seems happy. We all know his comments before the pandemic so maybe having the last 2.5 years off has made him want to get out on the road again.
I would like to see at least one or 2 extended jam songs like Rats, Rattlesnake Shake or Thighs but at this point we take what we can get. It’s just good to see them back out on the road, because some of us were questioning if this would even happen at all.
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Post by aeronyc on Sept 9, 2022 7:42:54 GMT -5
Obviously I wasn’t there but Steven has been forgetting lyrics and add libbing his entire career…at least since the 1990s. Sure, it’s probably happening a lot more now but they are all in their 70s so it’s expected. Set lists are OK…better than some, worse than others…but for only being 2 shows into the tour, it’s not bad. Usually the first few shows have the worst set lists and if this is the worst…than it’s not that bad. Of course without Joey we can’t expect much from a fill in drummer. I am glad to see Brad seems happy. We all know his comments before the pandemic so maybe having the last 2.5 years off has made him want to get out on the road again. I would like to see at least one or 2 extended jam songs like Rats, Rattlesnake Shake or Thighs but at this point we take what we can get. It’s just good to see them back out on the road, because some of us were questioning if this would even happen at all. Well said. Totally agree. An extended jam would be excellent. That is 100% what is missing
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Post by 4bits4licks76 on Sept 9, 2022 7:50:58 GMT -5
Aerosmith better than ever in stellar Fenway show Jed Gottlieb PUBLISHED: September 8, 2022 at 10:57 p.m. | UPDATED: September 8, 2022 at 11:29 p.m. Categories:Latest Headlines
BOSTON, MA - September 8: Tom Hamilton, Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith perform at Fenway Park on September 8, 2022 in Boston, Massachusetts. (Staff Photo By Matt Stone/MediaNews Group/Boston Herald) Steven Tyler ripped off his gold sequin overcoat, fireworks blasting behind him, and screamed, “I’m back in the saddle again.”
Beside Tyler, in black hat, black jacket and just as many sparkles, Joe Perry ripped into a tough and sweet riff he wrote in 1976.
Tyler is 74. Perry turns 72 on Sept. 10.
Apparently, nothing can kill them or their band – not age, drugs, infighting, prolonged hiatuses, pandemics, falling down on stage, falling off the stage, or the death of the record industry. Following inconceivable comeback after inconceivable comeback, Aerosmith have achieved immortality. Or at least that’s how it felt in a packed Fenway Park on Thursday.
Because of those endless inconceivable comebacks, the Aerosmith catalog runs from the ’70 sleaze of “Mama Kin” to the ’80s sheen of “Love in an Elevator” to the ’90s syrup of “I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing.” The band indulged in every era without blinking (thankfully leaning into the sleaze).
From “Back in the Saddle,” the Bad Boys of Boston (and they had the energy of kids Thursday), waded into the raunch with impish glee: “Same Old Song and Dance” into “Rag Doll” into “Mama Kin” into fabulous garage rock sludge of Shangri-Las cover “Remember (Walking in the Sand).” I’ve seen righteously dirty and downright ugly Aerosmith sets, this one was righteously filthy.
Tyler’s body has recovered from recent surgery, his voice better than it has been in years, maybe decades. Perry occasionally plays too loose, at the ballpark, he made every riff taught, bright and bold and laid down a half dozen solos in the sweet spot between economical and unhinged.
Longtime secret weapons bassist Tom Hamilton and second guitarist Brad Whitford gave backbone to every pop turn, rock shuffle and power ballad – Perry and Whitford’s guitar duel on “Elevator” showed off 50 years of chemistry. (The band’s longtime drum technician, the didn’t-miss-a-beat John Douglas, filled in for Joey Kramer who is on a “temporary leave of absence.”)
The shiny stuff, which tends to come from the late ’80s and early ’90s, had the band trying to match the fury of the opening 30 minutes. “Cryin’” deserved to be a radio and MTV staple but the Fenway version couldn’t compete with the rough stuff; “I Don’t Want to Miss A Thing” is better than you remember and worse than anything else in the set.
But it seemed the five couldn’t wait to get back to the ’70s rocks, gems and big ones. Kudos to Aerosmith for spotlighting minor masterpiece “Seasons of Wither.” Congratulations for once again pulling off the epic stunt of having Tyler belt out “Dream On” behind a white grand piano atop the Green Monster. Cheers for slamming “Sweet Emotion” and “Walk This Way” back to back in a closing reminder that Aerosmith’s immortality is based as much on its classic catalog as its stage show.
Now that we know Aerosmith will be around forever, can Fenway book them for 2023 and 2024 and…
Thanks Aerosmith for picking fellow hometown heroes Extreme as the support act. In the ’80s, the band was tighter than its peers. Now Extreme may be the only hard rock act of that era that hasn’t lost a step. Singer Gary Cherone has the pipes, moves, physique, charisma and bravado of a 20-year-old. Guitarist Nuno Bettencourt is the only shredder who can play in the pocket and write memorable riffs. Bonus points for a set that was equal parts tender ballads, funk and neo-classical speed metal. (Please headline Boston soon!)
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Post by seangod on Sept 9, 2022 7:53:28 GMT -5
Overall a lot of fun and MUCH better than expected. I'll be writing a detailed review later along with 4bits and I am sure tomass too- we need a tomass review.
As far as the setlist goes, come on people, do we need to pull up the Fenway 2010 setlist and compare it to this? Last night's 70's heavy (yes the classics) blew that set out of the water.
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Post by aeronyc on Sept 9, 2022 8:12:38 GMT -5
Overall a lot of fun and MUCH better than expected. I'll be writing a detailed review later along with 4bits and I am sure tomass too- we need a tomass review. As far as the setlist goes, come on people, do we need to pull up the Fenway 2010 setlist and compare it to this? Last night's 70's heavy (yes the classics) blew that set out of the water. They don’t look that different in terms of old vs “new” material. Looks like 2010 just had 2 fewer songs, which I agree does matter
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Post by pillis on Sept 9, 2022 9:03:14 GMT -5
2010's setlist had that badass crescendo of sweet emotion-baby please don't go-draw the line, all extended, as a closing segment. It was dope. One of their best closing sets ever. So evil, obscure, dark and filthy.
Anyway, anyone saying Steven's voice is the best in decades hasn't been following aerosmith since the 80s. He's still defying his age but he's way past his prime, I'm sure that if he rehearses more and cleverly arranges a proper setlist, he can do better than this past 2 shows. Honestly he just sounds a bit rusty and unsure of his instrument, it will take time but the long hiatus may have rested his vocal chords just enough for some end of the road rock n roll!
Vegas won't be helpful with its super dry air, it's a terrible place for singers.
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Post by aerozhul on Sept 9, 2022 9:24:37 GMT -5
Kudos to them for playing 19 songs, the setlist length was getting pretty short for a while, I think down to 14-15 songs at one point. Amazing that they are actually increasing their set length rather than decreasing well into their 70s!
I look forward to all of the reviews!
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