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Post by bostonian on Aug 10, 2014 5:57:21 GMT -5
Simple fact... the Album sucked and was all over the place. I want an album like Van Halen's A Different Kind of Truth... Go back to the vaults, pull out some of those old school incomplete late 70's early 80's tracks. Hell do it with the left over from when Jimmy and Rick was in the band. Give it some of that Joe flare and Brad killer licks... Make it no more than 9 tracks... One ballad and bam... you got an album. Have all the boys in the same room, and keep it simple and sweet. Album aren't 9 tracks long anymore...the 70s are over but I agree that back then it was most of the times all killer no filler with a closing ballad but it's 2014 now, 12 is a good amount of songs for a nowadays album. There are pop/rnb album that are 18-22 songs!! I'd be ok with a 9-11 songs album if they will release big singles on limited 7" vinyls with exclusive b-sides, that would make more sense from a business/marketing perspective, so at the end they are gonna record basically the same number of songs. Then they really do not need streaming, young people are gonna download illegalily anyway because the little money they have is unlikely to be spent on music. I think they can sell albums to the 30-60 y.o. range but if many of these people can listen to the album via spotify it's difficult that they're gonna buy the physical or even digital copy. I think that MFAD physical package was VERY appealing, with an amazing deluxe version with the dvd and the little poster, amazing artworks and shining cover but again, there was no strategy behind the promotional campaign. I really miss b-sides in nowadays music. But you basically just reiterated what I was saying, they could make a 9 track album. Who cares if the majority of albums now are 12-14? If they want to make a good album for fans and rock fans, then do it! Simple as locking yourself in a room together, jamming out 9 good songs. People are going to download and get their music one way or another. However, if there is a reason to buy, I will. MFAD was the first time I wasn't excited to buying a new album from the band because it was a sloppy mess.
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Post by pillis on Aug 10, 2014 18:36:21 GMT -5
Yeah I'd personally enjoy a 9 tracks album but I also know that it wouldn't be commercially appealing nowadays so I think that they should put out at least 12 songs, 2 of them being good ballads. That would be a balanced and modern aerosmith album imo. I just think they'll hit the studio right after the end of the tour..yes joe will be busy with the book and everyone will take a vacation or something but I bet they have already lots of ideas and want to jam and create new tunes. Meanwhile, Steven can easily work on his solo album since I'm sure he'll co-write all of the songs so I don't think he'll have to wait for a big inspiration.
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Post by aerozhul on Aug 10, 2014 19:06:03 GMT -5
For a band that absolutely hates the writing and recording process, I think the 9-song album and/or releasing singles here and there is a great idea. They can't even be bothered to actually rehearse and learn the new songs, so maybe if they juist had 1 song released at a time, they would actually play it live, too and, you know, promote it a bit.
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Post by pillis on Aug 10, 2014 20:02:24 GMT -5
For a band that absolutely hates the writing and recording process, I think the 9-song album and/or releasing singles here and there is a great idea. They can't even be bothered to actually rehearse and learn the new songs, so maybe if they juist had 1 song released at a time, they would actually play it live, too and, you know, promote it a bit. I agree on the reharse thing, it would be easier for them and probably they'll putt much more effort in one or two song at a time rather than a full lenght album but why do you think that they hate the writing and recording process?? I think it's definitely more difficult now for them to create music as the creativiy doesn't come up as easily as years ago but I do not think that they hate the process itself. If they're still doing what they're doing it's because they all want to and they enjoy it...I don't believe the "for the money" theory as they're already damn rich and could easily make money with their catalogue/brand.
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Post by aerozhul on Aug 11, 2014 12:13:04 GMT -5
For a band that absolutely hates the writing and recording process, I think the 9-song album and/or releasing singles here and there is a great idea. They can't even be bothered to actually rehearse and learn the new songs, so maybe if they juist had 1 song released at a time, they would actually play it live, too and, you know, promote it a bit. I agree on the reharse thing, it would be easier for them and probably they'll putt much more effort in one or two song at a time rather than a full lenght album but why do you think that they hate the writing and recording process?? I think it's definitely more difficult now for them to create music as the creativiy doesn't come up as easily as years ago but I do not think that they hate the process itself. If they're still doing what they're doing it's because they all want to and they enjoy it...I don't believe the "for the money" theory as they're already damn rich and could easily make money with their catalogue/brand. They have historically struggled with the in-studio part of the business and have stated many times (of course I can't supply any links) that they really don't enjoy the process. I believe that much of it has to do with the fact that ST is very difficult to work with and spending days on end in the studio with him and with some of the tension that flares up between him and Joe, it would probably be pretty miserable. Plus the creative juices just are not flowing like they used to, as you pointed out. It's telling that it took them 11 years to come up with MFAD. They never prioritized it, it always fell on the backburner......
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Post by pillis on Aug 11, 2014 18:31:28 GMT -5
I don't get this hate towards Steven...he's a great musician who always comes up with amazing melodies, the fact that it took them 11 years to get in the studio doesn't mean they don't like to be in the studio to me, as a matter of fact MFAD was completed in just a few months. They were always touring in the summer and living their life for the rest of the time...they just didn't think of a possible new album that seriosly and there were lots of drawbacks between 2005-2011 from throat surgery, to health problems and operations, to addiction between 2008-9, to ST falling off stage, to Idol, to books...I think they had a good time recording MFAD, I think they did not enjoy recording JPP as it was very label driven and the band wasn't playing all together as they usually do...anyway the album sounds terrific to me, maybe even too clean and sharp for an aerosmith record.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 21:03:10 GMT -5
It's no secret that Steven is difficult to work with in the studio and has a "my way or the highway" mentality. He almost caused (if not did cause) Joey's nervous breakdown from being on his ass about his drumming. I'll agree that Steven is a musician on another level than most, but the fact that it did take 11 years for these guys to get back into the studio is very telling. And it's a lot more than just "them living their life and being on tour." Most bands have the ability nowadays (hell even going back to the 70s) to record wherever. I think Steven is well known for ruling the studio with an iron fist. He even tried to pass on Sweet Emotion but Tom flipped some stuff around to get it made. Good call as the song is badass, but just shows who wears the pants and knows it when these guys get together to record. Is it a good thing? Not always.
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