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Post by AeroCooper on Feb 1, 2023 20:00:53 GMT -5
Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler officially named in lawsuit alleging child sexual abuseJessica Wang Wed, February 1, 2023 at 7:32 PM EST Steven Tyler has been formally named as a defendant in a lawsuit initiated last month alleging that he sexually abused a minor in the 1970s. A complaint filed by Julia Misley (previously known as Julia Holcomb) in Los Angeles County Superior Court under the California Child Victims Act accuses the Aerosmith frontman of sexual assault, coercion of an abortion, and involuntary infamy. Misley, now 65, alleges that Tyler, 74, used his fame and status to "groom, manipulate, exploit, [and] sexually assault" her over the course of three years, beginning when she was 16 and he was in his mid-20s. Tyler was previously identified as Defendant Doe 1, and the court provided legal approval to name him on Wednesday. Misley is seeking an unspecified amount of compensation and a trial. Representatives for Tyler didn't immediately respond to EW's request for comment. According to the complaint, which EW has reviewed, Misley met Tyler in 1973 after attending an Aerosmith concert in Oregon, where she was invited backstage and later to Tyler's hotel room. She accuses the musician of sexually abusing her that evening and of sexually assaulting her in a hotel room after Aerosmith's next concert in Seattle, where Tyler allegedly flew her out to attend. The following year, Tyler met with Misley's mother and "convinced her to sign over the guardianship of her daughter to him," assuring her of her well-being, the complaint says. Tyler "did not meaningfully follow through on these promises and instead continued to travel with, assault and provide alcohol and drugs" to Misley, the complaint continues. Tyler is also accused of impregnating Misley and coercing her to get an abortion. Misley says she continued to suffer deep emotional harm as a result of Tyler's 2004 memoir, which recounts his relationship with a minor. (She was also named in a 1976 Rolling Stone profile of Aerosmith.) The memoir "imposed involuntary infamy" on Misley while framing the abuse as a "romantic, loving relationship," the complaint says. Misley said in a statement that she filed the lawsuit seeking accountability. "I want this action to expose an industry that protects celebrity offenders, to cleanse and hold accountable an industry that both exploited and allowed me to be exploited for years, along with so many other naïve and vulnerable kids and adults," she said. The complaint "recites in legal terms the trajectory of my life from early struggles to exploitation by Steven Tyler, the music industry, my escape from that world, my recovery and transformation, my restoration of spirit through faith, the building of a family and the rebuilding of my life," Misley continued. "I am grateful for this new opportunity to take action and be heard." Misley's attorney Jeff Anderson added, "This industry, and these defendants have permitted, protected, and profited from severe violence for decades. It's time to face the music. It's time for reckoning… Now, adult survivors of sexual abuse can act under the [California Child Victims Act], giving voice and power to adult victims of assault".
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Post by AeroCooper on Feb 1, 2023 20:08:14 GMT -5
Ok, I have respect and sympathy for those who have actually suffered any kind of abuse, but for me this is where her story falls apart and loses all credibility: If you were sexually "abused", would you accept a flight and hotel room from the so-called abuser so he could do it again? Sounds to me that she quite enjoyed that 'abuse'. And don't tell me she was brain washed and 'groomed' after one night. She chose to come back and now...
As someone put it so well up above, it's the new lottery without buying a ticket.
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Post by petertherock on Feb 2, 2023 3:14:12 GMT -5
Ok, I have respect and sympathy for those who have actually suffered any kind of abuse, but for me this is where her story falls apart and loses all credibility: If you were sexually "abused", would you accept a flight and hotel room from the so-called abuser so he could do it again? Sounds to me that she quite enjoyed that 'abuse'. And don't tell me she was brain washed and 'groomed' after one night. She chose to come back and now...
As someone put it so well up above, it's the new lottery without buying a ticket.
Yup…I smell bullshit.
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Post by aerostooge on Feb 2, 2023 3:53:32 GMT -5
Can you 'Cancel' someone over something they 'Cancelled' themselves over in their own words, over 25 years ago? Just wondering.
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Post by VoodooMedicineMan on Feb 2, 2023 10:19:13 GMT -5
This is actually turning out to be good publicity for the band. From the news articles I've seen that allow comments, including the Yahoo one Coop posted yesterday, people have been overwhelmingly on Steven's side in all this. Far more so than when Aerosmith music is discussed, which is generally a mixed bag.
I've seen very little sympathy for the guzzler of WholeCum. Everyone sees that for what it is. The vast majority of comments, and especially the ones getting the most upvotes, almost all view Steven as the victim of a frivolous money grab.
Sure there will always be the loud few preaching from their soapboxes and claiming moral superiority. Rock and roll has always been about pissing those people off and giving them the middle finger. The louder they get in all this, the more people will rally around Steven and the band.
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Post by 4bits4licks76 on Feb 2, 2023 13:11:25 GMT -5
Ok, I have respect and sympathy for those who have actually suffered any kind of abuse, but for me this is where her story falls apart and loses all credibility: If you were sexually "abused", would you accept a flight and hotel room from the so-called abuser so he could do it again? Sounds to me that she quite enjoyed that 'abuse'. And don't tell me she was brain washed and 'groomed' after one night. She chose to come back and now...
As someone put it so well up above, it's the new lottery without buying a ticket.
The way the law is written, consensual sex with a minor is abuse, statutory rape. Minors are deemed incapable of making an informed decision on sex and recognizing all the implications. Now, I see this is a money grab, times were different back then, I think many times authorities looked the other way unless the parents wanted to file charges, which is the opposite here, they actually signed off, literally on the relationship. Should a 25 year old man be banging a 16 year old? No. But, there was a time when 16 year olds routinely got married in this country, so it’s all relative and needs to be viewed in proper context.
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Post by tomhamilton on Feb 2, 2023 14:33:07 GMT -5
The following year, Tyler met with Misley's mother and "convinced her to sign over the guardianship of her daughter to him," assuring her of her well-being, the complaint says.
So, she has 2 adult-responsible carers (mother/father) who willingly ALLOW this to happen, yet it is only Steven's fault? Why isn't she suing her parents aswell (in the case they are alive) or at least also making them as accountable as Steven?
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Post by aeronyc on Feb 2, 2023 20:16:40 GMT -5
The case may have holes, but it’s still hard to defend Steven. It wasn’t his shining moment, but I get he was much younger and society was different.
I’ve seen some online comments saying Steven was listed in Epstein’s flight logs or his black book. Is that true? Is there a legitimate source than dumb social media comments?
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Post by petertherock on Feb 2, 2023 20:21:31 GMT -5
The case may have holes, but it’s still hard to defend Steven. It wasn’t his shining moment, but I get he was much younger and society was different. I’ve seen some online comments saying Steven was listed in Epstein’s flight logs or his black book. Is that true? Is there a legitimate source than dumb social media comments? Since politicians on both sides are making sure the client list/flight logs stay a mystery, we may never know for certain.
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Post by aeronyc on Feb 2, 2023 22:23:36 GMT -5
The case may have holes, but it’s still hard to defend Steven. It wasn’t his shining moment, but I get he was much younger and society was different. I’ve seen some online comments saying Steven was listed in Epstein’s flight logs or his black book. Is that true? Is there a legitimate source than dumb social media comments? Since politicians on both sides are making sure the client list/flight logs stay a mystery, we may never know for certain. Okay, so it’s just a bullshit rumor then. I sure hope so. It would disappointing to learn otherwise
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Post by aeroknows on Feb 3, 2023 16:47:14 GMT -5
Since politicians on both sides are making sure the client list/flight logs stay a mystery, we may never know for certain. Okay, so it’s just a bullshit rumor then. I sure hope so. It would disappointing to learn otherwise That would be some plane ride. Epstein, Tyler, the Prince, Clinton and Gates? Fun conversation there LMFAO!
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Post by petertherock on Feb 3, 2023 19:19:16 GMT -5
Okay, so it’s just a bullshit rumor then. I sure hope so. It would disappointing to learn otherwise That would be some plane ride. Epstein, Tyler, the Prince, Clinton and Gates? Fun conversation there LMFAO! Obviously they all flew at different times but that would be funny 😂
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Post by aeronyc on Feb 3, 2023 20:53:20 GMT -5
Okay, so it’s just a bullshit rumor then. I sure hope so. It would disappointing to learn otherwise That would be some plane ride. Epstein, Tyler, the Prince, Clinton and Gates? Fun conversation there LMFAO! Haha. This did make me laugh!
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Post by AeroCooper on Feb 14, 2023 20:55:18 GMT -5
Steven Tyler will have a hard time overcoming his own words in the child sexual assault lawsuit he faces, experts sayMichelle Mark Feb 14, 2023, 5:17 PM A woman sued Aerosmith's Steven Tyler, alleging he sexually assaulted her when she was a minor. Legal experts say evidence from Tyler's own memoir will likely be used against him in court. The evidence against him is unusually compelling, experts say, leaving him an uphill battle. Legal experts say the lawsuit against Steven Tyler for alleged sexual abuse is an unusual one — and one in which his accuser, Julia Misley, will be able to use his own words against him. The fact that Misley's lawsuit is even making it to court without being settled is uncommon, they say. And so is Misley's long history of speaking publicly about Tyler's alleged sexual abuse. Combined with words from Tyler's own memoir, it amounts to powerful evidence a jury may find hard to dismiss. In the final days of the legal "lookback window" for California adults who were sexually abused as children, Misley filed a lawsuit accusing the Aerosmith singer of sexually assaulting her when she was a minor in the 1970s. In the weeks since, the LA Superior Court has granted approval to formally name Tyler — who was previously characterized as "Defendant Doe 1" — in the lawsuit, and Misley has demanded a jury trial, as well as to be compensated with unspecified damages. "It's somewhat surprising that it's even in the court system to begin with," Ann Olivarius, an attorney with the firm McAllister Olivarius who frequently represents survivors of sexual assault and harassment, told Insider. "We find that it does tend to be the most powerful men who wish to settle things, and they just don't want this to go on." Misley alleged in her lawsuit that she was 16 years old when she met Tyler at an Aerosmith concert, and that he "performed various acts of criminal sexual conduct upon" her afterward, all while being aware of her age. She also alleged Tyler was granted guardianship over her, allowing them to live together and travel across state lines, all while Tyler committed sexual assault, sexual battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. Misley's allegations are partly corroborated by Tyler himself, who wrote in his memoir of a 16-year-old girl he described as "barely old enough to drive and sexy as hell." Tyler called the 16-year-old his "partner in crimes of passion," and said he "almost took a teen bride." Tyler also described convincing the 16-year-old's parents to sign over custody papers for their daughter "so I wouldn't get arrested if I took her out of state. I took her on tour with me." As Misley's lawsuit noted, Tyler's memoir even named Misley in the acknowledgments. Tyler and his legal team have not yet responded to the allegations, either in court or otherwise, and a representative for the singer did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.
Tyler likely 'could have ended this if he wanted to' Experts agreed Tyler's recounting of the relationship was a shocking piece of evidence. Child sexual abuse allegations — particularly those involving decades-old allegations — can be difficult to prove due to the lack of physical evidence, but Misley's allegations have the makings of a convincing case. "That statement is absolutely something they can use to cross-examine him in court," said Debra Greenberger, a New York attorney whose firm handled many cases under New York's Child Victims Act, including two cases that will soon head to trial. The vast majority of child sexual abuse cases — including those filed under laws like California's and New York's Child Victims Act that grant temporary windows to sue over years- or decades-old allegations — never make it to a courtroom, let alone a trial, Olivarius said. Instead, most cases are quietly settled between both parties' lawyers. Even Virginia Giuffre's high-profile sexual abuse case against Prince Andrew, filed under New York's Child Victims Act, was ultimately settled, though Andrew is reportedly seeking to overturn the settlement. Greenberger said there are generally two possibilities when it comes to strong claims of sexual assault that make it to court: either the parties' attorneys couldn't come to an agreement over a private settlement first, or the accuser is demanding a "public reckoning" over the alleged abuse, and doesn't wish to privately settle. "He's got an admission on record. So he's obviously proud of it," Olivarius said. "He could have ended this if he wanted to. And he hasn't done that." Greenberger also said Misley will likely be able to use the oldness of her allegations to her advantage, rather than her detriment. Greenberger said survivors who can describe the way their abusers have altered the trajectory of their lives, over a period of decades, are often in a much better position to sway a jury to their side than survivors who have recently experienced abuse. "It's very powerful for the jury to hear and to think about compensation when they're realizing the impact of this abuse is not light. It's not something that leaves after a month or even a year or two," Greenberger said. "It's lifelong, and it's decades later that the survivors can testify really powerfully about just grave impact of child sexual abuse."
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Post by aeronyc on Feb 14, 2023 23:52:23 GMT -5
Disappointing this story won’t go away. Perhaps he won’t settle since it would just invite copy cat lawsuits.
Has this impacted how you all view Aerosmith? Listening to them less? Leaving your t shirt in the drawer?
I think this story will sideline all of 2023 in terms of Aerosmith output
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